upcoming redesign

[ALt4r]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: upcoming T4R

HP means very little in a truck, it's all about the torque. I have driven both, and although the v6 is a nice engine, the low end torque produced by the V8 is on another level. I love having the V8, even if gas were 5 bucks a gallon. V8 doesn't have to work as hard. I can say that if I want, my RPMs can always stay under 3K.

I completely agree. You usually will see trucks advertising torque because that is what they do. though horsepower is important as even said. Also who doesn't love the sound of a V8, especially on the 4runner it's not ridiculously loud, just right and relatively quiet when you are inside. The v6 and v8 are both great engines, as for the next gen, there is no way in hell they will cut the v6 out.

 

[Uneek]

The V6 isn't going anywhere, neither is the 4.7 V8 even though it's an older engine. This is evident with the Tundra.

The V6 is a newer engine and Toyota will most likely continue to offer this engine. Toyota would discontinue the V6 if the 5th gen got overly big and wouldn't be adequate for its size. I don't see this happening as the 4.7 is the smallest engine for the Sequoia (only on the SR5, Limited and Platinum has the 5.7 standard) and the 5.7 is the only engine on the Land Cruiser. Discontinuing the V6 means Toyota will not have a V6 powered truck based SUV.

 

[Gromulus]

Marketing

Interesting. Toyota may have to offer the 5.7L - needed or not- in the new 4Runner to compete against the likes of the new 5.6L equipped Pathfinder (I wonder what the sales is for that model) and the like.

If the new 5.7L (and 6 speed tranny) can yield equivalent mileage ratings compared with the current 4.7L than it will be an attractive option.

I can see the 4.0L V6 being offered for those people who want (or think) they are being more economical with the six.

I can't see Toyota offering three engine options however.

I would buy another 4Runner with any of the above engines over many other competitive models - provided they don't diminish it's capabilities.

 

[BROOKLYN]

y would toyota keep making the 2uzfe engine for one truck on the lineup when every other truck is using the 5.7 makes sense for toyota to throw out the 2uz and throw in the 5.7 u guys agree

 

[jtateny]

Makes perfect sense to me. Perhaps keep the V6 as a base engine and leave the 5.7 with the 6 speed tranny as the optional V8. Maybe, just maybe, throw in a turbo diesel like they do on the T4R in Australia....

 

[Thai]

Although the 4.7L V8 is a good reliable engine, it is not really up to date with the current competition nor current Toyota engines. Although i love the iron block, it is outdated by modern standards. It may be durable, but 99% of engine blocks nowadays are aluminum...and have stand the test of time. Iron block main issues are weight and (i think) less efficient heat dissipation. In addition, there is only so much that you can do to it to get more power. The last revision in 2006 was probably the most power that Toyota can get out of the 4.7L V8 engine. If they could get more, then they would have done it because even by most standards, the power output is only average at best...and within the next year or so, it will be well-below average. I also doubt that they can add all the new technology to the existing block, e.g. direct injection.

My guess is that Toyota will eventually drop the 4.7L V8 and go with V6 and the 5.7L V8, as mentioned above.

 

[Falls]

Who know what they will do .

I like my 06 V8 4.7L .

I love the torque !!! smoothness , quiet , good fuel economy .

 

[Thai]

Who know what they will do .

I like my 06 V8 4.7L .

I love the torque !!! smoothness , quiet , good fuel economy .

and the 5.7L V8 with 6-speed auto will likely match (and beat) everything you just mentioned.

 

[JosephD05]

and the 5.7L V8 with 6-speed auto will likely match (and beat) everything you just mentioned.

True, but will it be a costly upgrade? I mean, the sticker on my truck was 44,700...thats the most 4 runners should ever be, not that I paid that of course. I sure do hope they don't raise the MSRPs on these babies by too much. Hopefully they won't since they'll be made in the USA by american union workers

 

[Thai]

True, but will it be a costly upgrade? I mean, the sticker on my truck was 44,700...thats the most 4 runners should ever be, not that I paid that of course. I sure do hope they don't raise the MSRPs on these babies by too much. Hopefully they won't since they'll be made in the USA by american union workers

I doubt that it will be a big increase...because the powertrain is already there in the tundra, sequoia, etc.. Also, the competition is upping the power without much of an increase in price...so, Toyota should be doing the same...hopefully.

 

[Falls]

and the 5.7L V8 with 6-speed auto will likely match (and beat) everything you just mentioned.

I'm sure it will , except for milage maybe ??? I'm happy with the way it is now. Good balance for me .

 

[JosephD05]

I doubt that it will be a big increase...because the powertrain is already there in the tundra, sequoia, etc.. Also, the competition is upping the power without much of an increase in price...so, Toyota should be doing the same...hopefully.

I do agree that will be the engine of choice. I mean, last generation 4runner/sequoia/landcruiser all shared the same V8, so I would expect that to continue. Also, the 4runner will probably get a bit larger, so the increase in engine size would be somewhat warranted.

 

[Thai]

I'm sure it will , except for milage maybe ??? I'm happy with the way it is now. Good balance for me .

I think that the new Land Cruiser (5.7L + 6-speed auo) actually gets slightly BETTER fuel economy than the previous generation LC (4.7L + 5-speed).

 

[jtateny]

I just think that it is ironic that I spent considerable time on this thread stating my opinion that the 5.7 would either supplement or replace the 4.7 and I spent days and days being bashed and told how ridiculous I was......I must say I enjoy the last day or so where all the posters now seem to agree with me. Of course, it is always an honor to have Thai agree with you as well.

 

[Thai]

Of course, it is always an honor to have Thai agree with you as well.

Many people would not see it as an honor....

 

[Gromulus]

Thai is obviously well respected on this (his) forum. I know he frequents other SUV forums and is not afraid to express his fact-based opinions (very diplomaticaly of course) - even if he takes some heat on occasion.

A bit of objectivity is always good for the soul, although the occasional Jeep or Lexus owner may not always appreciate it!

 

[Thai]

A bit of objectivity is always good for the soul, although the occasional Jeep or Lexus owner may not always appreciate it!

Hell, even the Mercedes owners don't always like my opinions!

 

[Even Steven]

I do agree that will be the engine of choice. I mean, last generation 4runner/sequoia/landcruiser all shared the same V8, so I would expect that to continue. Also, the 4runner will probably get a bit larger, so the increase in engine size would be somewhat warranted.

The all-new Sequoia offers both V8s.

 

[rook]

My guess is that Toyota will eventually drop the 4.7L V8 and go with V6 and the 5.7L V8, as mentioned above.

As far as the next gen V8, I wonder if Toyota will spin one off the 5.7L platform with a smaller engine option, similar to the current 4.0L / 3.5L gr-fe series engines.

Iirc, the '08 5.7L Sequoia gets better mileage than the '08 4.7L.

 

[spo0587]

I think sales of the new sequoia-tundra will warrant any 5.7 engine upgrades. Just think about it, gas continues to go up. I paid over $350 dollars this month alone on gas. $4 dollar a gallon is on the horizon. I know that it will go down again after spring and the peak driving season is over, but my gosh at $4 is going to cost me $80 to fill up! But thats just me, I also understand even if people had to pay $12 dollars a gallon, people would still buy more powerful engines.