What can I do about this RUST?

I just filed a safety complaint with the NHTSA. My rust is bad in parts.
 

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I just filed a safety complaint with the NHTSA. My rust is bad in parts.


Yikes! I would def get someone to look at that and see what they can do asap. I didn't really have the money but wanted mine done before winter, and I still need to clean it and coat it in something.
 
I went all around mine with a pointy body hammer, luckily the front end was fine but I created new holes in some of the bottom horizontal sections. I also had a tank strap break, removing the frame bolt created another rust hole. I've welded 3 or 4 patches on my rig so far. All of the guards turned into crumbling crackers so those were all removed by me. The needle scaler is definitely a good tool for this job. In my opinion I think the best thing to do is oil the frame inside and out with an oil that sticks well, Fluid Film didn't last a winter on my truck.
 
I went all around mine with a pointy body hammer, luckily the front end was fine but I created new holes in some of the bottom horizontal sections. I also had a tank strap break, removing the frame bolt created another rust hole. I've welded 3 or 4 patches on my rig so far. All of the guards turned into crumbling crackers so those were all removed by me. The needle scaler is definitely a good tool for this job. In my opinion I think the best thing to do is oil the frame inside and out with an oil that sticks well, Fluid Film didn't last a winter on my truck.

I agree, and once all my welding is done, I will be using an undercoat gun to shoot some heavy oil inside the frame! After seeing a thread about the AC drain dripping on the frame, I checked that today, and found that it rusted a hole through the top where it drips, and rotted out the bottom directly below that! WTF Toyota?!
 
Here is a a couple pics to show what that stupid drain location caused!
 

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I agree, and once all my welding is done, I will be using an undercoat gun to shoot some heavy oil inside the frame! After seeing a thread about the AC drain dripping on the frame, I checked that today, and found that it rusted a hole through the top where it drips, and rotted out the bottom directly below that! WTF Toyota?!

I bought an undercoating gun with a wand off Amazon recently, haven't tried it yet.

Dang, I moved that AC drain hose a month ago and didn't see any corrosion from it. Odd how these things seem to rust differently car to car. That one looks like a pain to repair.
 
Just saw a sobering Youtube video...had the same problem with the front brace, one side had been repaired, also had two or three fixes along other spots on the frame, plus much of flaky rust all over.

I'm not sure I want to deal with this. I was planning to do some body work, exhaust system, to the tune of thousands. Not sure that would make sense with the rust issues. Maybe I should swap this out and get a later model, don't want to leave the club.
 
It does suck, on the plus side these are fully boxed frames that are pretty thick unlike something like an older Ranger. Those things break in half if the rust isn't noticed in time. If you can afford to get a newer cleaner one then I would say go for it just make sure you oil the inside of the frame vigilantly. Sadly you now know the value of your current rig is probably less than what you paid for it left as is.
 
Maybe someone will come along and talk me off the ledge...LOL

Lower mileage Gen 5's seem to be in the 20K+ range...but I don't want a Gen 5!
 
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You guys up North are more dedicated than I would be with this rust issue. I see surface rust and I am ready to run. These pictures make me cringe that Toyota won't address this issue. As reliable as the 4R drivetrain is, it's a shame the frame sends so many Toyota trucks and SUV's to the junkyard before their realistic end of life is reached.
 
Maybe someone will come along and talk me off the ledge...LOL

Lower mileage Gen 5's seem to be in the 20K+ range...but I don't want a Gen 5!

That’s my problem. I don’t like the gen 5’s, and they don’t have the v8, which I want. The rest of my rig is way too nice not to fix this issue so as much as it sucks to deal with I have no choice. It’s either fix and keep it for many more years with no payment, or trade it in and get killed in value because of the frame. No choice for me...
 
I bought an undercoating gun with a wand off Amazon recently, haven't tried it yet.

Dang, I moved that AC drain hose a month ago and didn't see any corrosion from it. Odd how these things seem to rust differently car to car. That one looks like a pain to repair.

Yes, for sure! I suspect that drain did all of the same age to the passenger side based off what it did there. Once water and salt gets inside, as you know, there really is nowhere to go other than the lowest points to work their way out.:frusty:
 
The rest of my rig is way too nice not to fix this issue so as much as it sucks to deal with I have no choice.
Well, I do have a choice, start spending a lot of money hoping I can get the rust under control, or get something else and prevent as much damage as I can before it get's bad. If that is possible, then investment is in no huge danger of being completely lost (unless I get really un lucky and the vehicle is totalled for some reason).

Any other insight greatly appreciated...
 
Yes, for sure! I suspect that drain did all of the same age to the passenger side based off what it did there. Once water and salt gets inside, as you know, there really is nowhere to go other than the lowest points to work their way out.:frusty:

Mine's an 03 and that spot is fine. My front cross piece is also intact but scaly. My rust holes were elsewhere. Hopefully I can stop the madness with oil treatments.
 
Mine's an 03 and that spot is fine. My front cross piece is also intact but scaly. My rust holes were elsewhere. Hopefully I can stop the madness with oil treatments.

Interesting. Well, at the very least be sure to lengthen and relocate where that hose exits to get it off the frame either way.
 
Well, I do have a choice, start spending a lot of money hoping I can get the rust under control, or get something else and prevent as much damage as I can before it get's bad. If that is possible, then investment is in no huge danger of being completely lost (unless I get really un lucky and the vehicle is totalled for some reason).

Any other insight greatly appreciated...

Sounds like a plan as long as you don’t have actual holes. If you do, then the only option (to either keep it, or preserve resale) is to cut out the bad areas and repair them because you really can’t stop it otherwise. It’s like cancer... you have to remove all of the “tumor” or it WILL come back/spread.
 
Frame rust - should I buy this 4Runner? 03 Ltd V8

Hi there!

First post...apologies for breaking any rules!

Hoping for some help/advice. Looking at this 03 Limited V8 with 180,000 km, but worried about frame rust. It looks to be surface rust to me, but I haven't seen the vehicle yet so can't say for sure.

Dealer is asking 15k CAD, which is pretty steep but think I can get them down.

What do you guys think? Should I go for it or walk?

Thanks in advance!
 

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I hate to lose my 2005 4runner, but a buddy of mine who welds and rebuilds trucks from top to bottom said it would be very expensive to get my rust taken care of. I needed to replace the rear brake lines and the gas tank strap anyway, which I was going to do, but I don't weld, so I'd have to find someone. This is on the rear drivers side frame near the gas tank and rear wheel.
 

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