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Hefty Fabworks sliders installed....

Hats off to Hefty Fabs. They beat their lead time by almost two weeks (two weeks from order to delivery). Had them powder coated by Full Blown Coatings, and they did an amazing job! They turned them around in 44 hours from drop off. Install was smooth and easy thanks to some cold brews and a friend.
 

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in regards to interest and financing in general, you may be forgetting one crucial thing... compounding interest. 1st one would need to set the stage of financial independence, I strongly advocate not buying any thing you cannot pay cash for, however actually paying cash for it, most of the time is foolish. this is actually fact not opinion, at the end of the day it's a free country and you can do what you want but math is math is math. for example let's say you have $40,000.00 and you need a vehicle, my interest rate on my 4Runner purchased in Nov 2017 is 2.49% for the sake of easy math let's say my loan if for $30,000.00 and I put 10k down. even if I didn't earn what an aggressive large cap equity position would yield, even if I earned LESS than 2.49% you'd still end up making more than you will pay in interest. do the math $30,000.00 at say only 2.00% COMPOUND interest over heck make it 5 or even 6 years you'll make more than you'll pay in interest. Oh one more thing, you also only pay your simple interest on the remaining balance of your loan, so the amount you pay in interest goes down every year while the amount you are earning interest goes up. I could then go into opportunity cost and illustrate that at an interest rate as low as 2.49% not financing could actually be a $10,000.00 mistake, but that would literally be pages.



where people get into trouble is when they finance things and don't have the cash to back it up having the money to pay off your house is smart, actually doing it isn't, having the money to pay cash for your car is smart, actually doing it isn't. the same holds true for overpaying your mortgage, and once again this is provable, not opinion, you are far better off investing the extra $400.00 a month or whatever the number is than paying down your mortgage faster. My personal financial positon is that I could pay off all of my debt, which is a mortgage and two car loans tomorrow (it's Sunday the bank is closed) most importantly will all non IRA dollars, but I know I am realizing a better return on my money in the market and even the year's income I have stashed in cash equivalents is earning more than 2.49%. You'll notice I only have two car loans but 4 cars, I also believe that you don't finance your toys, no matter what the interest rate, if you want a boat, snowmobile etc. pay cash, not because the math is different but more as an exercise in self control. Everyone has a threshold like that where personal comfort overrules the math your left brain is doing. For many paying cash for everything is an act in conservative self control... they are actually losing quite a bit of money over their lifetime, but it makes them FEEL better, no amount of logic can really overcome that. It's far, far better than the alternative of borrowing money you personally cannot cover. the way I play it is I make sure if all my debts were called on the same day I could write a check, sadly most of the U.S. has something like $50,000.00 in uncovered debt, which is super dangerous.



The average American lives check to check (68%), and has over $96,000 in consumer debt - not including their $181k average mortgage. And most Americans do things your way...

You do your plan, I’ll do mine. I enjoy living in my house, not the banks house. I enjoy driving my cars and toys, not the lenders’ cars and toys. I enjoy owning my stuff, and not buying my stuff.

If you truly believed leverage wins, why put down $10k on your truck? You said it costs you money, I would think you would have financed 100% to maximize your leverage position. Why have two paid for cars? Go finance them again and make the spread. Doesn’t seem to make sense why you would only partially live by your words.

For me, my math wins, every single time. I would rather have 100% of what’s available, not just a portion. P.S. 100% of my compound interest works for me, not just the spread, therefore eventually compounding more and earning more. Again, my math works every single time.

Enjoy your Sunday!


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The average American lives check to check (68%), and has over $96,000 in consumer debt - not including their $181k average mortgage. And most Americans do things your way...

You do your plan, I’ll do mine. I enjoy living in my house, not the banks house. I enjoy driving my cars and toys, not the lenders’ cars and toys. I enjoy owning my stuff, and not buying my stuff.

If you truly believed leverage wins, why put down $10k on your truck? You said it costs you money, I would think you would have financed 100% to maximize your leverage position. Why have two paid for cars? Go finance them again and make the spread. Doesn’t seem to make sense why you would only partially live by your words.

For me, my math wins, every single time. I would rather have 100% of what’s available, not just a portion. P.S. 100% of my compound interest works for me, not just the spread, therefore eventually compounding more and earning more. Again, my math works every single time.

Enjoy your Sunday!


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Why don't you knock yourselves out with PMs to one another or start a new thread.
 
Why don't you knock yourselves out with PMs to one another or start a new thread.



Ha - probably a good idea. But too much basic math to explain.

Sorry for the thread jack everyone. Back on topic, this is what i did today: gave her a much needed bath!

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The average American lives check to check (68%), and has over $96,000 in consumer debt - not including their $181k average mortgage. And most Americans do things your way...

You do your plan, I’ll do mine. I enjoy living in my house, not the banks house. I enjoy driving my cars and toys, not the lenders’ cars and toys. I enjoy owning my stuff, and not buying my stuff.

If you truly believed leverage wins, why put down $10k on your truck? You said it costs you money, I would think you would have financed 100% to maximize your leverage position. Why have two paid for cars? Go finance them again and make the spread. Doesn’t seem to make sense why you would only partially live by your words.

For me, my math wins, every single time. I would rather have 100% of what’s available, not just a portion. P.S. 100% of my compound interest works for me, not just the spread, therefore eventually compounding more and earning more. Again, my math works every single time.

Enjoy your Sunday!


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It doesn't again this isn't personal, it isn't opinion it's mathematics and economic truth, you don't get to say your math works every time because, you want it to, or it "feels right to you" anyone with a financial calculator can run the numbers. Also, even your language and syntax is incorrect 100% of compound interest works exactly the same regardless of model. I don't make my car payment out of my investment account... silly. Again, don't take it personally, you're wrong, you are welcome to own it but nothing anyone can say will ever change the math... it's math. why do you imagine Apple is sitting on billions in cash and still issues bonds (debt) to research new projects? why do you imagine Berkshire Hathaway has huge billion dollar cash positions but once again has bond issues year over year? because it was an emotional decision?? Further your implication of leverage is also unfounded, you are leveraged if you cannot cover your debt, if you can, then you aren't leveraged. Think of it like a margin account, if you have 200k they only give you 100k of credit. so if I have 200k in debt and more than 400k in assets in what way am I, or anyone else leveraged? my degree is in finance my minor was economics, I learned this in a classroom at 20 before I had any money at all. It's economics, if you managed money and debt this way, you would have more money now, it's a fact, repeatable, and provable. So your math fails 100% of the time, math isn't the kind of thing that has more than one answer. sorry man, it's just truth
 
Hey Leroy...Man, that's going to cost you one of those awesome brackets you make!

Nah Buddy, It's an Eezi-Awn Series 2000 awning from ZA. Paul May at Equipt Expedition Outfitters is the North American supply chain for their great products.

LOLOL.... Thanks for the info... a tad pricey compared to the brand new ARB I have sitting next to my desk right now, but I love the Eezi-Awn hard shell and auto-retractable design MUCH BETTER !...
 
Didn't do much. Took it for a cruise as I love the ride. Sportin' winter wheels & rubber - Goodyear Ultragrips on 2017 4runner trail edition wheels

 
Been thinking of lots of ideas to mount a shovel/axe to the stock rails. I have the Rhino Rack steel mesh tray and mounted an axe and shovel to it last year for an extended trip and it worked great. You can see the blade of the shovel below in front of the trash bag on top of the handle.

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Then later in the year I took another trip but loaded the tray with some more stuff and lost the space I had the axe and shovel on.

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Thought over a lot of ideas, including using clamps that mount lights to roll cages, to u-bolting some sort of block to the roof rails with the quick fists attached, to short strut channel pieces bolted to the rails with the quick fists attached and finally came up with just using strut channel brackets bolted to the rails.

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It works pretty well and keeps the shovel reasonably low but not hitting the body or rails. Works for an axe too and I have four brackets so I can do one or both.

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Here's the backside.
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These bolts are the key.
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Thanks to [MENTION=144585]clweathers[/MENTION] and [MENTION=144394]Maadcaap[/MENTION] for the idea and [MENTION=144394]Maadcaap[/MENTION] for the link to the bolts. For some reason they're impossible to find on McMaster Carr's website. The bolt heads fit into the channel on the back of the stock rails and you rotate them 90 deg. and you can tighten them down. I wish maybe the brackets were angled a little towards the center of the roof to get them a little more low profile, but for now I like the solution. I think with these bolts a lot of possibilities open up with regard to mounting stuff to the stock rails.

I can install or remove these brackets really fast and easy, which is great as I don't want them on except for trips, and they are really thick and the whole setup is pretty sturdy.

Where did you get the bolts and what are they called.

I heard most people just use carriage bolts
 
Been thinking of lots of ideas to mount a shovel/axe to the stock rails. I have the Rhino Rack steel mesh tray and mounted an axe and shovel to it last year for an extended trip and it worked great. You can see the blade of the shovel below in front of the trash bag on top of the handle.

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Then later in the year I took another trip but loaded the tray with some more stuff and lost the space I had the axe and shovel on.

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Thought over a lot of ideas, including using clamps that mount lights to roll cages, to u-bolting some sort of block to the roof rails with the quick fists attached, to short strut channel pieces bolted to the rails with the quick fists attached and finally came up with just using strut channel brackets bolted to the rails.

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It works pretty well and keeps the shovel reasonably low but not hitting the body or rails. Works for an axe too and I have four brackets so I can do one or both.

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Here's the backside.
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These bolts are the key.
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Thanks to [MENTION=144585]clweathers[/MENTION] and [MENTION=144394]Maadcaap[/MENTION] for the idea and [MENTION=144394]Maadcaap[/MENTION] for the link to the bolts. For some reason they're impossible to find on McMaster Carr's website. The bolt heads fit into the channel on the back of the stock rails and you rotate them 90 deg. and you can tighten them down. I wish maybe the brackets were angled a little towards the center of the roof to get them a little more low profile, but for now I like the solution. I think with these bolts a lot of possibilities open up with regard to mounting stuff to the stock rails.

I can install or remove these brackets really fast and easy, which is great as I don't want them on except for trips, and they are really thick and the whole setup is pretty sturdy.

very nice.
 
It doesn't again this isn't personal, it isn't opinion it's mathematics and economic truth, you don't get to say your math works every time because, you want it to, or it "feels right to you" anyone with a financial calculator can run the numbers. Also, even your language and syntax is incorrect 100% of compound interest works exactly the same regardless of model. I don't make my car payment out of my investment account... silly. Again, don't take it personally, you're wrong, you are welcome to own it but nothing anyone can say will ever change the math... it's math. why do you imagine Apple is sitting on billions in cash and still issues bonds (debt) to research new projects? why do you imagine Berkshire Hathaway has huge billion dollar cash positions but once again has bond issues year over year? because it was an emotional decision?? Further your implication of leverage is also unfounded, you are leveraged if you cannot cover your debt, if you can, then you aren't leveraged. Think of it like a margin account, if you have 200k they only give you 100k of credit. so if I have 200k in debt and more than 400k in assets in what way am I, or anyone else leveraged? my degree is in finance my minor was economics, I learned this in a classroom at 20 before I had any money at all. It's economics, if you managed money and debt this way, you would have more money now, it's a fact, repeatable, and provable. So your math fails 100% of the time, math isn't the kind of thing that has more than one answer. sorry man, it's just truth



You enjoy your degrees and your debt, I’ll enjoy my money.

I think I’ll take the advice of 75% of Forbes 400 wealthiest people instead of yours. “When members of the Forbes 400, the wealthiest 400 people in North America, were interviewed, 75% of them say the number-one key to building wealth is to get out of debt and stay out of debt.“


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Went and explored some old mines and located some desert springs with my friend and his kids.
 

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Finally got some time to install the GOBI and light bar. It's definitely worth the wait.


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