Samm25
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Good to hear from you, man!
Budget is about $1k right now. Hopefully more as the next few weeks go by
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What would y’all do different?
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Budget is about $1k right now. Hopefully more as the next few weeks go by
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AZ07Runner
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Just got on Wheelers site and a set of 4 5100s is $360 + shipping. JUST the shocks.
You mentioned this: "I’m looking for more in-depth upgrades now, besides just improving the looks".
The choice on springs depends on whether you want to lift it or not and how much. Doing this also affects the look you envision. You can start going down the rabbit hole with this due to what the wheel/tire situation is, too, after the lift.
Do you want to lift it? If so, how much? Just level it? Or are you happy with the stock height?
You mentioned this: "I’m looking for more in-depth upgrades now, besides just improving the looks".
The choice on springs depends on whether you want to lift it or not and how much. Doing this also affects the look you envision. You can start going down the rabbit hole with this due to what the wheel/tire situation is, too, after the lift.
Do you want to lift it? If so, how much? Just level it? Or are you happy with the stock height?
Samm25
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I'd like to add at least three inches to it. I currently have a 1.5" leveling kit in the front and it's still about an inch shorter than the back. I'm guessing my back shocks have expanded and caused the back to lift a little higher because my dad's '05 has the same suspension and his back end is about an inch shorter than the back of mine.
So three inches is ideal on what I'd like, but even if it was just leveled off that would be cool
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First 4Runner
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I vote suspension. That is something you will appreciate the most since it's your DD.
AZ07Runner
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[QUOTE
So three inches is ideal on what I'd like, but even if it was just leveled off that would be cool[/QUOTE]
This is two different branches on proceeding. If you do three inches, there might be a good chance that you would need new upper control arms due to caster limitations. I just had to do this myself. This alone would take half your current budget.
This is a lot of reading, but take the time and soak up the info on what others have already done.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/78803-compiled-fj-springs-lift-info-4th-gen.html
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/102272-4th-gen-suspension-options-faq.html
So three inches is ideal on what I'd like, but even if it was just leveled off that would be cool[/QUOTE]
This is two different branches on proceeding. If you do three inches, there might be a good chance that you would need new upper control arms due to caster limitations. I just had to do this myself. This alone would take half your current budget.
This is a lot of reading, but take the time and soak up the info on what others have already done.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/78803-compiled-fj-springs-lift-info-4th-gen.html
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/102272-4th-gen-suspension-options-faq.html
I think the biggest question is whether or not you expect to add weight to the 4runner. IE bumpers, armor, drawer system, fridge, roof rack, RTT. Or if you expect to tow heavy loads.
Any of those things are good reasons to upgrade spring rates-not just lift springs, but heavier duty springs rated for carrying more weight.
If those things aren’t in the books for your rig, then lifting is simpler. 1000 can get you some decent suspension components if you’re careful and patient. I’d start trolling the suspension threads and for sale threads for used coils. The overlanding trend right now basically means lots of people are putting ALL of the things I mentioned above on their already lifted rigs. Then surprise! Adding 1000 lbs of constant weight to a rig means springs start sagging with the weight, ride quality reduces and lift amount drops. Then all of these guys get new heavier duty coils and upgrade their suspension with them. Leaving the stock rated springs sitting around in people’s garages. I regularly see lift height/stock rate springs on sale on this forum. Also not making fun, the overland trendy thing totally applies to me too haha.
Used springs, new shocks, plus UCAs don’t have to break 1000 by much. I spent 1500 shipped for my entire dobinsons setup including a lot of odds and ends.
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Any of those things are good reasons to upgrade spring rates-not just lift springs, but heavier duty springs rated for carrying more weight.
If those things aren’t in the books for your rig, then lifting is simpler. 1000 can get you some decent suspension components if you’re careful and patient. I’d start trolling the suspension threads and for sale threads for used coils. The overlanding trend right now basically means lots of people are putting ALL of the things I mentioned above on their already lifted rigs. Then surprise! Adding 1000 lbs of constant weight to a rig means springs start sagging with the weight, ride quality reduces and lift amount drops. Then all of these guys get new heavier duty coils and upgrade their suspension with them. Leaving the stock rated springs sitting around in people’s garages. I regularly see lift height/stock rate springs on sale on this forum. Also not making fun, the overland trendy thing totally applies to me too haha.
Used springs, new shocks, plus UCAs don’t have to break 1000 by much. I spent 1500 shipped for my entire dobinsons setup including a lot of odds and ends.
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mannydantyla
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lockers, or just spools
spare tire carrier
SAS
Marlin Crawler dual transfer case
40s
spare tire carrier
SAS
Marlin Crawler dual transfer case
40s
mannydantyla
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Ok, seriously this time, I would remove some of the lights in the front. It looks like a cop car!
Bro seriously? You’re making a huge assumption about his priorities, and sort of unpleasant to boot. 2wd vehicles are not inherently “bad” or “non-useful”. I’ve had 2wd vehicles that could get around quite a bit. They’re not the same as 4wd or as off-road capable, but that can be totally ok if one doesn’t need 4wd capability.
As a matter of fact, I know in the past 2 months, Sam’s 2wd has seen more dirt than my 4wd that’s in the process of being “overlanded out”.
You know what they say about assumptions....
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Samm25
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I love this truck. Why would I want to buy a motorcycle or take a vacation when working on my truck IS in fact my vacation from work. It is a 2wd and I have no complaints about it. As for the "bunch of questionable purchases" comment, most of those lights I have we're handed down to me from a friend, so I really only spent money on the bull bar and retrofit. I like it, my girlfriend likes it. That's pretty much all I need haha
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84ability
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That sounds good, to each his own. I'm just saying what I wish I would have done differently. Enjoy yoself however you see best fit.
I had an older 4Runner, 2005 with near 200k miles on it. My favorite thing I did was replace the lower control arm bushings, ball joints, and shocks. Made the truck feel new again.
I also did a split/dual exhaust on the 2005. When I bought a newer 4Runner, the 2008, I elected not to split the exhaust because it made it near impossible to fit the spare tire. However, I did upgrade the exhaust and bought one with the side exit to minimize the exhaust going into the rear window. So long story short, I wouldn't split the exhaust, but still upgrade it.
I also did a split/dual exhaust on the 2005. When I bought a newer 4Runner, the 2008, I elected not to split the exhaust because it made it near impossible to fit the spare tire. However, I did upgrade the exhaust and bought one with the side exit to minimize the exhaust going into the rear window. So long story short, I wouldn't split the exhaust, but still upgrade it.
Samm25
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That’s the one thing I absolutely HATE right now. The exhaust gets into the cabin and creates so many fumes and heat inside that I never roll down the back window. Thinking of doing that dual exit out the sides when I get a chance [emoji848]
Did you split the dual exhaust on your ‘05 after the muffler or straight out of the manifolds before it hits the Y-pipe?
The split was after the muffler, so at that point it was purely aesthetic. That is why I switched to the single side exit. I now have dual tips, but I would even elect to get rid of that. The reason is because the stainless steel is yellowing at a different rate. The dual tips is only for looks. I like to have some function when I do something.
It is hard to run a true dual exhaust because the gas tank gets in the way on the drivers side. My next mod will be a bigger Y pipe which I think is just as effective.
Samm25
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Agreed! That tank is massive. The only way I’ve even thought about doing it was to run two pipes together to go with the passenger side exit with both pipes, but I haven’t done it yet because I don’t know if it would look terrible haha. Or I’ve even thought about removing the spare tire and putting it on a roof rack on top, but even then it’s a tight fit for that pipe around the axle, etc. on the driver side rear.
Exact description of my Runner. I need to get that done.
