White line V. Energy suspension

[MarkamisPrime]

Been looking into replacing all of my control arm bushings.
I see on here everyone uses white line but energy suspension is a reputable poly bushing and they are a lot less expensive.
I've had energy bushings on other vehicles with perfect results but when I ordered the rack bushing for my runner recently I was disappointed with the fit.
Witch is why I started looking up what people on here use and white line seems to be the answer but they are pricey.
Has anyone had any experience with both bushings??

 

[mtbtim]

Been looking into replacing all of my control arm bushings.
I see on here everyone uses white line but energy suspension is a reputable poly bushing and they are a lot less expensive.
I've had energy bushings on other vehicles with perfect results but when I ordered the rack bushing for my runner recently I was disappointed with the fit.
Witch is why I started looking up what people on here use and white line seems to be the answer but they are pricey.
Has anyone had any experience with both bushings??

Well, I can tell you [MENTION=142071]sunsetrunner[/MENTION] likes his Whiteline Poly Bushing Upgrade and they were pretty easy to install. [MENTION=102606]infamousRNR[/MENTION] and I just recently helped him install them on his rig. Video coming out very soon so stay tuned.

 

[hounddogman]

If you're talking about the front lower control arm bushings then yes , go whiteline . I actually bought the energy suspension kit for the uppers and lower arms and looked at the design for the lowers and ordered the whitelines and only used the es upper bushings from the kit . And I have enough Scottish blood in me that I don't waste money .

 

[sunsetrunner]

The Whitelines are going to be much easier to replace as you don't reuse any of the oem parts. I would say the price difference is worth it.

 

[fourfive]

They're both good products. I went with whiteline front lca bushings for ease of installation. I wanted to go with es because I liked the idea of using my oem sleeves but didnt want to go through the process of having to cut and melt away the old bushing material to have access to the metal sleeves. You dont have to do any of that with Whiteline bushings which is probably why they cost a bit more. I also used Whiteline bushings in my rear upper and lower links because I don't remember seeing any offered by es or prothane.

 

[meRockboost]

Autoanything.com is running 20% off, got them for $50. Now gotta go to my local Toyota place and get the rest I need to fix my lca's

 

[xcmtb83]

I am resurrecting this thread instead of starting a new, very similar thread.

So I want to replace the LCA and UCA bushings in my '96 T4R. When rebuilding my '99 Tacoma I opted for the Energy Suspension kit rather than the Whiteline kit. I understand the ES kit requires prepping the factory sleeve but it doesn't require press work which is nice. I'm a Machinist by trade so neither process concerns me when talking about ES vs. Whiteline installation.

My only question is, are there any significant performance advantages of the Whiteline bushings to justify over two times the cost to do all uppers and lowers?

If the performance is the same I will opt for another ES kit unless convinced otherwise. I can buy tools and IPAs with the left over money.

Let me know what you guys think! TIA!

 

[HiluxSurf SSR-G]

are the whiteline bushings better than OEM?

 

[JoeT4R]

are the whiteline bushings better than OEM?

I don't know if they would be considered to be "better" than OEM, but perhaps they are stiffer/might last longer than your standard rubber bushings. Just my experience with poly bushings on certain things.

 

[xcmtb83]

are the whiteline bushings better than OEM?

Factory bushings are rubber, softer than poly bushings. Rubber makes for a softer ride but less precise control of the control arm, particular when performing and keeping an accurate front end alignment. Poly bushings last longer at the cost of ride quality is my understanding.

 

[rdruss]

Other than material, the biggest difference between OEM and Whiteline, ES, Super Pro, etc. is the way they operate, the OEM torsion-twist the rubber for movement, whereas the others allow for shaft rotation within a bushing as it should be. Release your upper front shock bolt and two bolts securing LCA to knuckle with your 4Runner on jack stands and front wheel off and notice that the arm hardly moves, do same after install of other type bushings and arm will drop as it is free to rotate downward.

 

[nissanh]

Front suspension arms are independent therefore those travel vertically up and down. The rear is a solid axle so the control arms not just go up or down but also flexes: this is where rubber is ideal. The 4WD247 a Youtube channel once stated they don't use poly bushings as they can break off the ears welded onto the frame and axle.

 

[GhostRing]

I tend to agree with [MENTION=85046]nissanh[/MENTION] regarding ideal travel arcs and bushing material.

My front LCA's have a Whiteline kit that I have been very happy with. Combined with the
aftermarket uppers, there is almost no restriction in the travel/articulation. I use rubber
for all the sway bar links and Rokmen lower rears. I would have used OEM rubber for the
rear UCA's, but that seems to be harder to accomplish, so Whiteline as well for those and the panhard.

A more "precise" ride & handling for sure, but no squeaks or groans. and as long as attention is
paid to correct lubrication/maintenance, they should last many years both on & off road.