Who has the PT228-89190/PT228-89191 rails?

[CRasch505]

Yeah, there's some mentions here and there but I don't think there's a full thread for people who have them and run them. So what's the verdict? I'm a weekend warrior on my best day and I'd like a little protection for a random rock. The most action I would ever see is maybe running Black Bear Pass one day.

I know these rails aren't as sturdy as the $1,000 plus options but they seem to be steel, frame mounted, and can hold the weight of the truck. So who owns these OEM rails, has experience with them, has hit rocks with them, has some photos, etc? Thanks all!

 

[max rockatansky]

Mine came pre-installed on my 2021. Sturdier than expected and tucked in close, not really usable as a step though. The semi-gloss finish on Themis done well and blends into the body pretty well.

You are correct that they bolt to the frame and I could see them protecting the expensive-to-repair lower sills of the body if you lay it onto a rock. I don't think you'd want to be dragging / dropping the weight of your truck onto them repeatedly, but I kind of see it as a "sacrificial" crush point between a rock and the lower sills.

A little lighter than most aftermarket options, so that may factor into things for you.

All of that being said, I'm replacing mine with the RSG angled sliders with bump out. The other two people that ride with me need a step, I also spend enough time on trails where the actual rear bump out has proven helpful on my last 4Runner and GX.

 

[CRasch505]

Mine came pre-installed on my 2021. Sturdier than expected and tucked in close, not really usable as a step though. The semi-gloss finish on Themis done well and blends into the body pretty well.

You are correct that they bolt to the frame and I could see them protecting the expensive-to-repair lower sills of the body if you lay it onto a rock. I don't think you'd want to be dragging / dropping the weight of your truck onto them repeatedly, but I kind of see it as a "sacrificial" crush point between a rock and the lower sills.

A little lighter than most aftermarket options, so that may factor into things for you.

All of that being said, I'm replacing mine with the RSG angled sliders with bump out. The other two people that ride with me need a step, I also spend enough time on trails where the actual rear bump out has proven helpful on my last 4Runner and GX.

Thanks for the honest feedback! To be completely honest, we had our Tacoma for 2 years and Medano Pass was the most "terrain" the vehicle saw outside of sand hills outside town. While I have aspirations for a full trail rig, being honest with myself means admitting I likely don't need $1,000+ sliders. Basically I need an something that can prevent the rocker panel from caving if something goes unexpectedly wrong. I'm leaning toward OEM for that if I'm honest. Thanks again!

 

[grizz1925]

I just took them off a few weeks ago when I picked up my new 4Runner. Like the others commenter said, I need something usable as a step for my kids. I picked up a set of slightly used CBI sliders off someone here. The OEM ones are definitely lighter and only had 5 bolts holding them on.

Let me know if you have any other questions on them, they are still in my garage and I’m trying to sell them.

 

[CRasch505]

I just took them off a few weeks ago when I picked up my new 4Runner. Like the others commenter said, I need something usable as a step for my kids. I picked up a set of slightly used CBI sliders off someone here. The OEM ones are definitely lighter and only had 5 bolts holding them on.

Let me know if you have any other questions on them, they are still in my garage and I’m trying to sell them.

If you were closer I would be all about making a deal. I'm sure shipping would be scary on these. I thought they were 6 bolt per side (not that that makes a large difference) but in either case, did they seem sturdy enough for light rocks or logs? Thanks!

 

[grizz1925]

If you were closer I would be all about making a deal. I'm sure shipping would be scary on these. I thought they were 6 bolt per side (not that that makes a large difference) but in either case, did they seem sturdy enough for light rocks or logs? Thanks!

I would think so, should save your panels/doors for a few good hits. I will say as well, a few of the bolts were a huge pain in the ass to get out. Just due to how the brackets are set up, the bolts on top took some time and patience.

 

[saltlife66]

I removed my side steps since kids are grown and they sit too low and order the rails. I can't justify over 1000k for high end sliders since there's no rocks where i live. These will fit the bill for kicking snow/sand off my boots before I get in the truck and will add protection on fire roads from any damage from a hidden stump .

 

[Jeff_DML]

Tried to order from my local dealer and got this reply( Toyota parts said the same thing)

Thank you for the order, unfortunately, the parts that you ordered are not compatible to the VIN provided. The rock rails are only compatible to the 2019-2024 models so they will not fit your vehicle. We could cancel the order and issue you a full refund or we can process the order but you will be responsible for any fitment issues. Please let us know what you would like to do, thank you.

That is not correct right? Mine is a 2018 and 99% sure 2019 is basically the same since my buddy has one.

 

[SlvrRnnR]

Tried to order from my local dealer and got this reply( Toyota parts said the same thing)



That is not correct right? Mine is a 2018 and 99% sure 2019 is basically the same since my buddy has one.

Installed on my 2018 with no issues and got them from my local dealer.

 

[Ahab_BK]

Tried to order from my local dealer and got this reply( Toyota parts said the same thing)



That is not correct right? Mine is a 2018 and 99% sure 2019 is basically the same since my buddy has one.

Happened to me too. When I ordered mine, I had to call the parts department and talk them into ordering them, which they did, once they realized "4Runner" appears in the parts description.

 

[Hungryhawk]

I found a used set of factory rails and cleaned minor rust on welds and painted with Rustoleum.
The mounting U-brackets are 1/4" thick. Memory is the outer tube about 1/8" or 11 gauge. It will take a big hit to damage these enough to fold them into the body. The factory bolts seem grade 5 or 8. Very strong.
If you look up the tensil and shear strength of the 5 bolts you will see their combined strength is very high.
I found and installed plastic end caps for the 4 open outer tube ends to prevent internal rust.
If a side is somehow bent or dented, repair seems doable.

 

[Jeff_DML]

Tried to order from my local dealer and got this reply( Toyota parts said the same thing)



That is not correct right? Mine is a 2018 and 99% sure 2019 is basically the same since my buddy has one.

thanks for all the replies, yes fit no problem on my 2018 so not sure what is going on with Toyota parts.

Initially thought a bit flimsy but once mounted up they seem pretty nice.

FYI, it comes with bolts so you do not need to order the seperate bolts.

 

[Hungryhawk]

If your rig is involved in a collision on the road with another vehicle and these factory rails are impacted, their ability to crush can absorb shock loads to the frame and possibly save your rig from a ruined frame. Perhaps Toyota Engineers know what they are doing. Liability concerns alone will prevent a rock rail design that will make a collision more dangerous to the occupants.

 

[pickled]

I somehow hadn't seen these, they look great, thanks for the pics! Now I have another item on the wishlist lol