Who’s running Wheeler T1 and T13 springs?

[BigT42]

I am going Bilstein 5100’s all around and was planning to go 1.75 in the front with a 1inch corn fed rear spacer. After some looking around I found these wheeler springs and I am thinking T1 springs in front/ T13 in rear along with the bilsteins will give me a more comfortable ride? Im putting these on my daily driver that I take off-road on the weekends so I don’t need a top of the line lift but i’m Thinking this might work for me? Can anyone running these tell me how they have held up? This is my first off-road vehicle so I am still new to all this and trying to learn so I appreciate any help.

 

[honda250xtitan]

Dot_tom was for a while IIRC. Check his build thread.

 

[MeefZah]

I have 5100s all around, T1 and T13, and 1/4" spacer drivers front and 10mm trim packer drivers rear. It's a nice setup. Rides comfortably (edit, comfortably to me meaning nice and firm, not spongy...no brake dive and stiff in the corners). Has held up fine x 10,000 miles now, no noticeable sag. There's a dedicated T1/12/13 thread with pics... my pics are on the last page of it.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/233598-wheelers-t-12-new-t-13-rear-lift-coils.html

 

[BigT42]

I have 5100s all around, T1 and T13, and 1/4" spacer drivers front and 10mm trim packer drivers rear. It's a nice setup. Rides comfortably (edit, comfortably to me meaning nice and firm, not spongy...no brake dive and stiff in the corners). Has held up fine x 10,000 miles now, no noticeable sag. There's a dedicated T1/12/13 thread with pics... my pics are on the last page of it.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/233598-wheelers-t-12-new-t-13-rear-lift-coils.html

So would the bilstein lift with rear spacers ride firm as well? Or would the springs be much firmer?

 

[TexasTEQFan]

I just installed the FJ TRD Pro Kit (Bilstien 6112's up front and 5160's in back) on mine with a 1" Daystar isolator up front to net 2" of front lift and went with the T13's in the rear for 1" in the rear. Rides super, definitely a firmer ride but at that same time more compliant and composed than stock. Mine is not a harsh ride at all.

 

[MeefZah]

So would the bilstein lift with rear spacers ride firm as well? Or would the springs be much firmer?

The front would be more firm with a 1.75" setting on the 5100s, because you are preloading the coil to get that height. Preloading it a lot, frankly.

The rear would feel pretty much exactly like it does now if you only add a rear spacer. You aren't preloading the coil like a front spacer does, you are just putting a block (basically) in between the coil and frame.

 

[BigT42]

The front would be more firm with a 1.75" setting on the 5100s, because you are preloading the coil to get that height. Preloading it a lot, frankly.

The rear would feel pretty much exactly like it does now if you only add a rear spacer. You aren't preloading the coil like a front spacer does, you are just putting a block (basically) in between the coil and frame.

Thanks for the help. I am going with the same setup as you. Hopefully will not need new UCA’s.

 

[MeefZah]

Thanks for the help. I am going with the same setup as you. Hopefully will not need new UCA’s.

You are getting 5100s, front at 0, T1 and T13 coils? I promise, you won't need new UCAs.

Opinions vary on getting the small spacers on the driver's side but I have them and I am dead level left to right. Without them you will get some driver's side lean.

If you buy from Wheelers, call and order and tell them you are a forum member for their discount. I believe the whole setup, with the fronts pre-assembled, was $800.

 

[BigT42]

You are getting 5100s, front at 0, T1 and T13 coils? I promise, you won't need new UCAs.

Opinions vary on getting the small spacers on the driver's side but I have them and I am dead level left to right. Without them you will get some driver's side lean.

If you buy from Wheelers, call and order and tell them you are a forum member for their discount. I believe the whole setup, with the fronts pre-assembled, was $800.

Ya I already have the bilsteins so I’m just getting the T1 and T13s along with the 1/4 strut space and rear trim packer. Total is around 375 shipped not including discount

 

[MeefZah]

Kewl!

 

[GearJunkie88]

I’m running T13 in the rear. Love them. Only thing I’d change with my setup is larger tires but I really like the way my shocks, springs, coil overs, and tires ride.

 

[TeeDub21]

You are getting 5100s, front at 0, T1 and T13 coils? I promise, you won't need new UCAs.

Need? Maybe not. However, I have this set up and didn’t install UCA’s at first. Wasn’t happy with the handling so put JBA UCA’s in and my alignment specs are much better. Truck drives like stock now too. 2.5” front lift is on the edge for needing aftermarket UCA’s on the T4R.

 

[clemsonxplorer]

how much lift from the T-13s?

Are yall getting exactly 1.5" from the T13s?

 

[YellowSnow]

Need? Maybe not. However, I have this set up and didn’t install UCA’s at first. Wasn’t happy with the handling so put JBA UCA’s in and my alignment specs are much better. Truck drives like stock now too. 2.5” front lift is on the edge for needing aftermarket UCA’s on the T4R.

This is where I’m at as well, same set up with spacer driver front side for lean. No more nose dive, stiffer ride without being harsh, and surprisingly capable off road. I will upgrade to King or Radflo once i blow through the 5100s, but the T1/13 combo is amazing.