Will I regret not doing UCA?

mavrick1903

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If I lift with 2.5-3" in my 2007 v8 limited, will I regret not doing the front UCA as well? How needed is it, and what does it do for me. No serious off road time. My "off road" come in the form of WI winters. I do occasionally tow a trailer.

Thoughts from the collective?
 
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Yes. You won't be able to get a decent alignment without aftermarket UCAs (caster). It will be twitchy PITA to drive on the highway.
 
playing some devils advocate here, I've got just a hair over 3" in the front and have stock uca's and it drives straight as an arrow with no twitching, vibrations, or any wandering on the highway or in any other sort of driving. id say get a good alignment done post lift and then decide
 
I have an 07 V8. It's been lifted for over a year without UCAs, I really don't think it was that bad. Plenty of FWY time, barely any dirt, but no alignment issues and not that wandery (I've had a few lifted trucks...).
That said, I do have a set of TC UCAs in my garage, going on ASAP. My stock UCAs whack the coil at full droop, and I'm doing some off roading in 2 weeks, I don't want any regrets...
 
I went quite a while with stock UCA's and just had some oversteer that I adjusted to but my tires wore unevenly. Added UCA's and those issues stopped. In other words, you don't have to but I'll wager you will sooner or later.
 
I did a 3" lift on my SR5 V6 with 884 coils and 5100s.
Although I was able to get alignment done I am going to install UCA due to steering not as positive as I would like it to be. Noticeable twitching on uneven roads at speed. Plenty of those where I drive. Hoping to increase my Caster.
 
I'm a little over 3" suspension lift and I'm running stock UCAs and had no problem getting in spec on alignment. My commute is 150 miles round trip and all interstate running 75 plus. Mine tracks straight. I've had 2 Tacomas in the past that I lifted over 3" and they were both twitchy on the interstate and I hated it. I have no idea what the difference would be other than the fact that the Tacomas sit higher already.
 
No, you wont regret it but it also depends on who does the install. I have a 3.25 inch lift all around, stock UCA's and my truck drives perfectly straight. 285x70x17 tires, Mud Terrains which aren't exactly highway tires and it still drives perfect.
 
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People seem pretty divided on whether or not UCAs are necessary. The fact is a 3" lift will leave you with less caster than you currently have. Too little caster makes the steering respond to road imperfections, and it's down to your personal preference to decide if that makes your truck too twitchy or wander too much. You might not even notice a difference.

While a front end alignment isn't super cheap, it doesn't cost much compared to new UCAs. I'd recommend you install your lift and get it aligned with the stock UCAs, then decide if the handling is acceptable; that's what I did to give myself time to save up for my UCAs without destroying my tires with a bad alignment.

Also, I'll be one more data point: I lifted 3" on stock UCAs and noticed a significant increase in how much the 4R wanted to wander at speed, especially on freeway lanes the semis had worn ruts into. It took a lot of small corrections at the wheel to keep it pointed where I wanted. It was definitely driveable, but I found it annoying enough to upgrade my UCAs; the handling is back where I like it now. Caveat: I come from small sporty cars and don't have previous experience with lifted trucks, so I'm probably a bit overly sensitive to less-than-ideal handling.
 
People seem pretty divided on whether or not UCAs are necessary. The fact is a 3" lift will leave you with less caster than you currently have. Too little caster makes the steering respond to road imperfections, and it's down to your personal preference to decide if that makes your truck too twitchy or wander too much. You might not even notice a difference.

While a front end alignment isn't super cheap, it doesn't cost much compared to new UCAs. I'd recommend you install your lift and get it aligned with the stock UCAs, then decide if the handling is acceptable; that's what I did to give myself time to save up for my UCAs without destroying my tires with a bad alignment.

Also, I'll be one more data point: I lifted 3" on stock UCAs and noticed a significant increase in how much the 4R wanted to wander at speed, especially on freeway lanes the semis had worn ruts into. It took a lot of small corrections at the wheel to keep it pointed where I wanted. It was definitely driveable, but I found it annoying enough to upgrade my UCAs; the handling is back where I like it now. Caveat: I come from small sporty cars and don't have previous experience with lifted trucks, so I'm probably a bit overly sensitive to less-than-ideal handling.

This is pretty much what I did/experienced right down to coming from the sporty car world to lifted trucks.
 

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