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GriffinMill

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Hey guys - i've got an '11 TE that I put a 3" Toytech lift on with 285-70R17D Duratracs.

Just dawned on me (I'm not the brightest) that I better add an additional Duratrac as a spare as the stock spare won't hit the ground if I wind up having to put it on (is that right?).

Wondering if you guys know whether the 285 Duratrac will fit in the current spare area?

And, also, with the toy tech lift on the bigger tires, do I need a special jack?

Thank for any help.
 
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GriffinMill said:
Hey guys - i've got an '11 TE that I put a 3" Toytech lift on with 285-70R17D Duratracs.

Just dawned on me (I'm not the brightest) that I better add an additional Duratrac as a spare as the stock spare won't hit the ground if I wind up having to put it on (is that right?).

Wondering if you guys know whether the 285 Duratrac will fit in the current spare area?

And, also, with the toy tech lift on the bigger tires, do I need a special jack?

Thank for any help.
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Best thing is to crawl under there and measure. Some 285s fit, most don't. I need to do the same thing.

As for the jack, my regular jack works still, but that doesn't mean yours will. Again, I would go try it, the only sure fire way.
 
My 285/70/17 BFG KM2 fits just fine.

Yes, your stock jack won't go up that high. Either carry around some blocks of wood or get a hilift jack.
 
adio3x said:
My 285/70/17 BFG KM2 fits just fine.

Yes, your stock jack won't go up that high. Either carry around some blocks of wood or get a hilift jack.
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Where would you put the him lift jack if you don't have sliders or after market bumpers?
 
Different size tires on the same (driven) axle will destroy the differential in a hurry.

Also, different diameter tires makes a lot of trouble for the stability control and anything else that runs on the wheel speed sensors.
 
Atlanta_man said:
Different size tires on the same (driven) axle will destroy the differential in a hurry.

Also, different diameter tires makes a lot of trouble for the stability control and anything else that runs on the wheel speed sensors.
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What's your definition of "a hurry"

It might hurt the diff when running a smaller oem size tire for an extended period.IMO you would be fine to to use a smaller spare to get you from point A to point B and had the flat fixed or bought a new tire.

Where it won't be fine is when your miles offroad or are on bad snowy road conditions,get a flat and actually need the grip and size of a like tire to get you back to a paved road or civilization. The OEM tires wouldn't cut it in my book and the reason I changed my spare, not because I thought the diff would get destroyed.

I have a 285/70/17 BFG AT tire on a 4th Gen Sport rim for my spare and it fits fine diameter wise.Ideally a skinnier tire but of the same diameter,like a 255/85/17 would be better so it lessons the possibility of dragging when taking a steep departure angle.My 285 spare has a few drag marks and the main reason I keep my hitch on or they would be worse as it hits first.
 
"hurry" is an exponential function of the actual diameter difference

do the math and see how fast the differential is spinning, it is used to doing a little work when going around a curve - it's not built to spin continuously and fast

I had a friend burn one up in about 10 miles of freeway driving, true it was not a good car, an older mid-sized Chrysler.
failure mode: differential was smokin and very noisey
 
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Intruder said:
My 285/70/17 Duratrac spare fits.
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Sorry to resurrect this old post. I have Duratrac 285/70/17 with OEM wheel fits under my truck fine. But if I change OEM wheel to Konig Six Shooter 17x8 0 offset on the same tire will it fit under my truck?
I know the OEM wheel size is 17x7, not sure if by changing that last number by 1 would make it not fit. I guess that last number is the width which should not matter. The current fit with OEM wheel with duratrack is pretty tight in there. I measured it to be close 31-32" which is odd, cuz 6 shooter wheel with duratrac measures to be around 33". Where is it losing 1 inch.
Anyone with that wheel and tire please let me know if it fits down there.
Thanks in advance.
 
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Mgltacoma said:
Sorry to resurrect this old post. I have Duratrac 285/70/17 with OEM wheel fits under my truck fine. But if I change OEM wheel to Konig Six Shooter 17x8 0 offset on the same tire will it fit under my truck?
I know the OEM wheel size is 17x7, not sure if by changing that last number by 1 would make it not fit. I guess that last number is the width which should not matter. The current fit with OEM wheel with duratrack is pretty tight in there. I measured it to be close 31-32" which is odd, cuz 6 shooter wheel with duratrac measures to be around 33". Where is it losing 1 inch.
Anyone with that wheel and tire please let me know if it fits down there.
Thanks in advance.
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It'll fit, I had 285/70/17 Goodyear MTR on a 17x9 up under there no problem
 
Mgltacoma said:
Sorry to resurrect this old post. I have Duratrac 285/70/17 with OEM wheel fits under my truck fine. But if I change OEM wheel to Konig Six Shooter 17x8 0 offset on the same tire will it fit under my truck?
I know the OEM wheel size is 17x7, not sure if by changing that last number by 1 would make it not fit. I guess that last number is the width which should not matter. The current fit with OEM wheel with duratrack is pretty tight in there. I measured it to be close 31-32" which is odd, cuz 6 shooter wheel with duratrac measures to be around 33". Where is it losing 1 inch.
Anyone with that wheel and tire please let me know if it fits down there.
Thanks in advance.
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To clarify, you plan on replacing your spare wheel with a Konig Six Shooter and plan to store it under the vehicle? The wheel width will not affect the tire width, so if you keep the same tires, the only think that will change is how many times you need to crank your spare mount mechanism due to the change in offset.

If I'm following you, the only real change will be potentially ****ing up an expensive after market wheel. If you want a Konig Six Shooter as your spare, better put it in a roof basket or hitch carrier.
 
harper7 said:
What's your definition of "a hurry"

It might hurt the diff when running a smaller oem size tire for an extended period.IMO you would be fine to to use a smaller spare to get you from point A to point B and had the flat fixed or bought a new tire.

Where it won't be fine is when your miles offroad or are on bad snowy road conditions,get a flat and actually need the grip and size of a like tire to get you back to a paved road or civilization. The OEM tires wouldn't cut it in my book and the reason I changed my spare, not because I thought the diff would get destroyed.

I have a 285/70/17 BFG AT tire on a 4th Gen Sport rim for my spare and it fits fine diameter wise.Ideally a skinnier tire but of the same diameter,like a 255/85/17 would be better so it lessons the possibility of dragging when taking a steep departure angle.My 285 spare has a few drag marks and the main reason I keep my hitch on or they would be worse as it hits first.
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Would you say I am running any risk still running a stock sized spare with my wheels and tires? The plan would be to get the wheel on and drive home to the tire store.

17x8 Grey Level 8 MK6 (0mm offset) | 275/70/17 BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 Tires
 
CF_Machete said:
To clarify, you plan on replacing your spare wheel with a Konig Six Shooter and plan to store it under the vehicle? The wheel width will not affect the tire width, so if you keep the same tires, the only think that will change is how many times you need to crank your spare mount mechanism due to the change in offset.

If I'm following you, the only real change will be potentially ****ing up an expensive after market wheel. If you want a Konig Six Shooter as your spare, better put it in a roof basket or hitch carrier.
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I'd just put the nice side face up. I believe the limited does this in stock configuration. The sidewall of the tire should protect the wheel from the bottom of the car, and who cares about the appearance of the inside of the wheel.

Can anyone who actually has this setup chime in?
 
mvt4r said:
I'd just put the nice side face up. I believe the limited does this in stock configuration. The sidewall of the tire should protect the wheel from the bottom of the car, and who cares about the appearance of the inside of the wheel.

Can anyone who actually has this setup chime in?
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Fyi, the limited spares are coated in yellow epoxy, not sure if its removable. Check post 18 http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/204579-does-my-limited-come-w-matching-spare-wheel-2.html

I'd keep the Konig in storage until you have an alternative mounting method or at the very least coat the face in a few layers of palstidip to protect it.
 
Spare Tire

I bought a Chevy Silverado rim with AT tire at a salvage yard for $35. If you hone out the center hole the 17" chevy rim will fit.
 
CF_Machete said:
Fyi, the limited spares are coated in yellow epoxy, not sure if its removable. Check post 18 http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/204579-does-my-limited-come-w-matching-spare-wheel-2.html

I'd keep the Konig in storage until you have an alternative mounting method or at the very least coat the face in a few layers of palstidip to protect it.
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Didn't that change in 2015? See
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/224941-spare-tire-2.html#post2461648

for an example.
 
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