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I know about as much about winches as I do about giraffes (they're long horses but I have NO idea what they eat, like to do with their free time, etc...). Are these good winches? What makes a good winch? Harbor Freight has them priced roughly the same, and for the number of Jeeps I'd expect to pull out of ditches, I wouldn't expect it to be used a lot... that being said, I know Harbor Freight stuff is, well, cheap.

Also, is the synthetic rope really worth an extra $110? Can't I go buy my own synthetic rope for much cheaper than $100 and swap out the steel cable?
 
I know about as much about winches as I do about giraffes (they're long horses but I have NO idea what they eat, like to do with their free time, etc...). Are these good winches? What makes a good winch? Harbor Freight has them priced roughly the same, and for the number of Jeeps I'd expect to pull out of ditches, I wouldn't expect it to be used a lot... that being said, I know Harbor Freight stuff is, well, cheap.

Also, is the synthetic rope really worth an extra $110? Can't I go buy my own synthetic rope for much cheaper than $100 and swap out the steel cable?

Ok these winches have been getting great reviews and yes the synthetic line is always going to be more. The cheapest these winches go for with synthetic is 425 (E9000S) from I can't remember where. I think it was ODL. Harbor freight winches don't have a good gear ratio as compared to the Engo. Better made and been tested for off roading.

The synthetic rope they use is not cheap and unless you know how to terminate it (splicing) then I would not advised using your own.

As well I would rather run something in my truck that has a better reputation for standing up to the elements. I have used the winches from HF. We used one to lift seamless siding coils (700 to 1200 lbs) into our trailer and well we burned up their 6k winch up after two pulls.

Just my expierience.
 
I know about as much about winches as I do about giraffes (they're long horses but I have NO idea what they eat, like to do with their free time, etc...). Are these good winches? What makes a good winch? Harbor Freight has them priced roughly the same, and for the number of Jeeps I'd expect to pull out of ditches, I wouldn't expect it to be used a lot... that being said, I know Harbor Freight stuff is, well, cheap.

Also, is the synthetic rope really worth an extra $110? Can't I go buy my own synthetic rope for much cheaper than $100 and swap out the steel cable?

Giraffes I'm pretty sure like long walk on the beach and HATE sore throats!:bowl:

These winches got great reviews although not up there with the standard name in winches Warn, for being a relatively "new" company they are designed amazingly/affordable/durable. In a winch comparison test out of 8 the Engo and the Warn were the only ones to survive the stall test, and function after. Shows the true design here. Also it was noted for its best bang per buck winch. This article pretty much sums it up, it got 4th, but insight of the test it scored high in makes it that much more desirable, for HALF the cost of a Warn.
Massive Multi-Winch Shootout - Four Wheeler Magazine

As for harborfreight I have heard from numerous people that the reliability of their winches is not up to the standards they have stamped on their box. Often burning out mid-pull or not even pulling near max weight.

The synthetic rope is definitely worth it. Not only is it much stronger, but also will save you 50+ pounds of weight off your front end from not using steel cable. Lastly it is also more safe then steel cable for that one in a million that it snaps.

Like me I will have the winch as a precautionary item and helping people or myself out of other situations, NOT pulling my rig up the side of a cliff. I would say Engo is the price of HF, but with reliability comparable to Warn
 
Awesome, thanks guys. It sounds like these Engos are the way to go!

Your welcome.

Just remember... HF has a lifetime warranty for a reason lol I use HF for things that I barely use. But for something like this I would not want to be in the middle of winching someone and have a failure be more likely that with other products :) anything I buy from HF I know I am going to break it at one point or another.
 
I've used plasma ropes in winches on ships off shore in the past, and they are a lot safer than wire cables. A wire cable when snaps is a dangerous situation, when those plasma ropes break, they tend to fall dead. They also tend to hold more stable weights than the steel cables, and if spliced properly they're amazing. I brought home a piece from work years ago, and put it in the back of my Durango. I kept it when I sold the Durango, and I've got it ready for the 4Runner the first time I take it out.

and just for the sake of arguement, when I looked into winches on my Durango, everything was suggesting 1.5x the GVW of YOUR vehicle. I know the door panel on my 4Runner lists it as a very heavy rig, and these 9000's are going to be very close to that suggested load limit.
 
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Yeah, I'd definitely go synthetic. Mostly because of the recoil thing, but also because I HATE handling steel cable. If there's ever a loose end in that cable, it will find a way to poke through my skin...
 
Yeah, I'd definitely go synthetic. Mostly because of the recoil thing, but also because I HATE handling steel cable. If there's ever a loose end in that cable, it will find a way to poke through my skin...

Ha ha ain't that te truth brotha!!! Oh yeah and another cool thing is that they float :)
 
I also concur on the synthetic winch line--they are well worth the extra cost. Lighter, no recoil, no chewing up hands/gloves with frayed wires. Just don't buy a cheap one--get quality lines. Like one of the other posters said, buy Harbor Freight for their simple stuff, but pay for quality in something as important as a winch and line.
 

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