Would you pay %25 more for a 4runner?

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I don't think you folks read the post above by 1jzgte. Light trucks and SUVs imported from Japan have been subject to a 25% tariff for years. If you have a 4Runner, you've already paid 25% to the US Treasury. The new tariffs proposed by the GOP apply to automobiles, not light truck and SUV imports.

I don’t believe the 4RUNNER meets the definition of “light truck” under the chicken tax and can’t find anything that says it does, what definitive source are you relying on?
 
God damn pedes are morons, its honestly exhausting how ****ing stupid they are


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I don’t believe the 4RUNNER meets the definition of “light truck” under the chicken tax and can’t find anything that says it does, what definitive source are you relying on?

You are correct. Since the 4runner has an enclosed back it is not subject to the "chicken tax". That is why Tacoma's and Tundra's are made here.
 
That means tofu will be getting less expensive in the USA.


I ate some tofu once. It was really, really good. My buddy took some little cubes that his girlfriend had and he fried them up in bacon grease. True story. She wasn't amused.
 
Did you want a war with North Korea or Russia? I swear the left is hell bent on having worse, deteriorating relations with hostile nuclear countries. Trump has done a pretty decent job deescalating things there.

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wow.
 
So, are you saying the guy from Richmond is letting his stupidity get in the way of facts?

Just spreading uninformed info, a staple of forums everywhere. The chicken tax does not apply to SUVs. Ford actually puts temporary back seats in its imported Transit Connect work vans to get around it. The old Subaru Brat did the same thing.

Trump (and I did not vote for him) is threatening a tax on everything in order to try and get other countries to drop their protectionist bans/taxes on US imports. Japan is nearly closed to US imports, a leftover from rebuilding its postwar economy. We are decades past that and it is time for free trade both ways. That is all Trump is posturing for. If the tax somehow sticks, Toyota will just build them (or maybe a Tacoma Surf) here. Its a win for Trump either way.
 
Just spreading uninformed info, a staple of forums everywhere. The chicken tax does not apply to SUVs.

I tend to believe you, but the unadulterated authority of his and the other guys post leads me to believe that they know something we don’t. I guess we will have to wait for them to set us straight.
 
Just spreading uninformed info, a staple of forums everywhere. The chicken tax does not apply to SUVs. Ford actually puts temporary back seats in its imported Transit Connect work vans to get around it. The old Subaru Brat did the same thing.

Trump (and I did not vote for him) is threatening a tax on everything in order to try and get other countries to drop their protectionist bans/taxes on US imports. Japan is nearly closed to US imports, a leftover from rebuilding its postwar economy. We are decades past that and it is time for free trade both ways. That is all Trump is posturing for. If the tax somehow sticks, Toyota will just build them (or maybe a Tacoma Surf) here. Its a win for Trump either way.

An a win for the USA. An Trump is doing exactly what I voted for him to do. Shake things up!
 
I tend to believe you, but the unadulterated authority of his and the other guys post leads me to believe that they know something we don’t. I guess we will have to wait for them to set us straight.

I’ll be happy to update my post after I’ve heard back from Toyota USA, whom I queried earlier today. I got my info from The Washington Post, which probably doesn’t care one way or the other about 4Runner import tariffs. I tried researching on the US Govt website, but it was too arcane for common folk. Facts are facts, so we’ll see what transpires.
 
I got my info from The Washington Post

I think we found the problem. Try this, it is commonly called the chicken tax. It is also a relic from decades ago, and I hope it also goes away so I can get a sweet compact diesel pickup.

btw I was just watching the news and the deal today is for zero tariffs on everything except automotive goods, and is only with the EU. But it is proof that Trump's plan is working so give it some time. The EU just separately signed an agreement with Japan, so Europeans will finally get to experience reliable cars.
 
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Speculation on something that will probably never happen reads like an excuse to bash the president. I read car forums to avoid that divisiveness.

Back on topic, 4runners are one of the few Toyota’s still made in Japan. There is a reason for that and I wouldn’t be surprised if production moves in the near future regardless of tariff negotiations.
 
I’ll be happy to update my post after I’ve heard back from Toyota USA, whom I queried earlier today. I got my info from The Washington Post, which probably doesn’t care one way or the other about 4Runner import tariffs. I tried researching on the US Govt website, but it was too arcane for common folk. Facts are facts, so we’ll see what transpires.

Excerpt from a Car and Driver article, not definitive, but seems to refute the mighty Washington Post:

“If that prices you out of an FJ40, try looking for the next big thing, the first-generation Toyota 4Runner. Its back story is just as interesting as Toyota’s Jeep clone’s, as the 4Runner started out as the Hilux pickup, the darling of insurgents on multiple continents. The infamous “chicken tax” of 1963 placed punitive tariffs on imported small pickups, but, with the addition of a removable shell and two seats in the bed, it became the 4Runner sport-utility vehicle.”
 
Should they start making the 4Runner stateside I guarantee quality will go down. The Japanese production lines are super meticulous with a heavy Kaizan going on. I would not want one built here. The Japanese are meticulous and take a nationalistic sense of pride in what they make. It will be the beginning of the end for the 4Runner legacy. Let’s hope this does not happen.

With that logic the Lexus ES350, Camry, Avalon etc are all trash because they are made in the US.
 
I see Trump wants to put a %25 tariff on all foreign cars. I think this would pretty much kill off the 4runner.

Fortunately, the 6th gen 4Runner is a Fortuner/RAV4 hybrid being manufactured in El Paso. It will cost $30,000 and have the Tacoma V6, but the tires won't rub.
 
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