Yellow fog lamp options

[90Duck]

Did the lamin-x films reduce output significantly of the LED bulbs? I was planning on going this route, OEM LED fogs with lamin-x yellow film for yellow output.

I have no way of quantifying it objectively, but from behind the wheel I'd say no. Those Tundra OEM's are a super easy plug and play replacement and are really bright, but in a very focused horizontal band with distinct cut off. I put yellow film on there originally and it shone through so brightly that you couldn't even really tell they were yellow. The amber film laminx is thicker and darker and I like the look much better when they are off and it I believe it visually cuts glare in fog/snow when on, which is what they are intended to do.

 

[4RunnerRound]

These are a little expensive but you can have white or yellow by switching the fog lights on and off. Super bright.

Dual Color LED Fog [1 bulb 2 colors] Choose between a Clean White & Hyper 3000k Yellow at anytime | deAutoLED

 

[pookguy]

Do the OEM LED fogs have a replaceable bulb? I'd like to use a yellow bulb instead of a film.

 

[shrub1]

I have no way of quantifying it objectively, but from behind the wheel I'd say no. Those Tundra OEM's are a super easy plug and play replacement and are really bright, but in a very focused horizontal band with distinct cut off. I put yellow film on there originally and it shone through so brightly that you couldn't even really tell they were yellow. The amber film laminx is thicker and darker and I like the look much better when they are off and it I believe it visually cuts glare in fog/snow when on, which is what they are intended to do.

Tell me about the Tundra OEM fog lamp swap to the 4Runner. Does the Tundra lamp fit right in the 4R bezel or is there modification involved?

 

[90Duck]

Tell me about the Tundra OEM fog lamp swap to the 4Runner. Does the Tundra lamp fit right in the 4R bezel or is there modification involved?

No modification required at all, it was a direct fit replacement on my '18. You will be blown away by how crappy the build quality of what comes stock on the 4Runner is compared to the LED upgrade.

Amazon.com: Toyota PT413-42191 Black Fog Light: Automotive

 

[CMS516]

Do the OEM LED fogs have a replaceable bulb? I'd like to use a yellow bulb instead of a film.

Yes, the bulbs are replaceable.

 

[shrub1]

No modification required at all, it was a direct fit replacement on my '18. You will be blown away by how crappy the build quality of what comes stock on the 4Runner is compared to the LED upgrade.

Amazon.com: Toyota PT413-42191 Black Fog Light: Automotive

Do you know if they are halogen or led?

 

[ElectroBoy]

Here’s some info on fog lights in general, from Daniel Stern Lighting:
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Selective Yellow fog lights:
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Long story, short: Try using 3 inch wide 1mil kapton (polyimide) tape over your existing fog light lenses:
1 Mil Kapton Tape (Polyimide), 3" x 36 yds: Electrical Tape: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

It’s worth a try before spending more money and time.

 

[Salvo Jimmy]

Here’s some info on fog lights in general, from Daniel Stern Lighting:
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Selective Yellow fog lights:
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Long story, short: Try using 3 inch wide 1mil kapton (polyimide) tape over your existing fog light lenses:
1 Mil Kapton Tape (Polyimide), 3" x 36 yds: Electrical Tape: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

It’s worth a try before spending more money and time.

Very interesting, especially the remark about no yellow bulb that does the job available.

BTW for Virginia folks be advised that only clear film can be placed on lights. I ran into this with Laminex on my T4R and could not pass state inspection until I removed it. And yes I had the inspector show me the requirement in the book, as I was highly skeptical.

 

[90Duck]

Do you know if they are halogen or led?

They are LED.

 

[shrub1]

They are LED.

Right on.
Buying now!
Thank you.

 

[tm965]

Very interesting, especially the remark about no yellow bulb that does the job available.

BTW for Virginia folks be advised that only clear film can be placed on lights. I ran into this with Laminex on my T4R and could not pass state inspection until I removed it. And yes I had the inspector show me the requirement in the book, as I was highly skeptical.

ive had it for a couple of years now and havent had any issue

 

[Salvo Jimmy]

ive had it for a couple of years now and havent had any issue

Inspector not fully knowledgeable or letting it slide. Like I said it is in the book.

From the inspection book

“
Reject if the vehicle has wire, unapproved lens or plastic covers, any other materials that are not original equipment or any colored material placed on or in front of any auxiliary lamps: backup, cornering, driving, fog, spot, or warning lamps.”

 

[Caliraisedled]

Tri-Color Fog Light Replacement Bulbs

Check out our tri color fog bulbs!

 

[tm965]

Inspector not fully knowledgeable or letting it slide. Like I said it is in the book.

From the inspection book

“
Reject if the vehicle has wire, unapproved lens or plastic covers, any other materials that are not original equipment or any colored material placed on or in front of any auxiliary lamps: backup, cornering, driving, fog, spot, or warning lamps.”

multiple inspectors, so no one cares. see lots of cars with it around here

 

[Salvo Jimmy]

Here’s some info on fog lights in general, from Daniel Stern Lighting:
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Selective Yellow fog lights:
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Long story, short: Try using 3 inch wide 1mil kapton (polyimide) tape over your existing fog light lenses:
1 Mil Kapton Tape (Polyimide), 3" x 36 yds: Electrical Tape: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

It’s worth a try before spending more money and time.

Has anyone tried the tape ElectroBoy suggested. Thinking about getting some so any input appreciated

 

[ElectroBoy]

Has anyone tried the tape ElectroBoy suggested. Thinking about getting some so any input appreciated

I just tried this on one fog lamp, drivers side. I have some rolls of one-inch wide and two-inch wide kapton tape, so it took three strips to cover the stock fog lamp. You can see the seams in the photo where I overlapped them a little. I got a few tiny bubbles and puckers, but this is a quick and dirty test.

Results:
Well, it does work. I get yellow light that looks pleasing on my garage wall. I cannot see if the seams make any difference. I’ll test it out tonight and see how it compares to the white light on the passenger side.

Notes:
It’s a little tricky doing this while they’re still installed on the truck. I positioned the tape over the lens, started pressing it down in the middle, and pressed out wrinkles toward the edges. If you lift up the tape after it’s been on the lens the adhesive gets cloudy, so when I did that I discarded it and started again. I put a strip of tape over the lens and housing, pressed out wrinkles, and trimmed the ends with an xacto knife, tucking the last bit under the lip of the housing.

To do a more professional job I’d remove the lamps from the truck, get some wider tape, and maybe use a heat gun or hairdryer to warm it so it stretches a little (if it does stretch) around the slight roundness of the lens.
Another note: my stock foglamps are more than 3 inches in diameter, more like 3.8 linear inches with the curvature, so you’ll need a seam somewhere.

 

[Salvo Jimmy]

I just tried this on one fog lamp, drivers side. I have some rolls of one-inch wide and two-inch wide kapton tape, so it took three strips to cover the stock fog lamp. You can see the seams in the photo where I overlapped them a little. I got a few tiny bubbles and puckers, but this is a quick and dirty test.

Results:
Well, it does work. I get yellow light that looks pleasing on my garage wall. I cannot see if the seams make any difference. I’ll test it out tonight and see how it compares to the white light on the passenger side.

Notes:
It’s a little tricky doing this while they’re still installed on the truck. I positioned the tape over the lens, started pressing it down in the middle, and pressed out wrinkles toward the edges. If you lift up the tape after it’s been on the lens the adhesive gets cloudy, so when I did that I discarded it and started again. I put a strip of tape over the lens and housing, pressed out wrinkles, and trimmed the ends with an xacto knife, tucking the last bit under the lip of the housing.

To do a more professional job I’d remove the lamps from the truck, get some wider tape, and maybe use a heat gun or hairdryer to warm it so it stretches a little (if it does stretch) around the slight roundness of the lens.
Another note: my stock foglamps are more than 3 inches in diameter, more like 3.8 linear inches with the curvature, so you’ll need a seam somewhere.

Yeah I had the same install problem with Laminx I tried before. Don’t think it was very good light wise so removed it. Did what you are doing, one clear and one Laminx, clear more light but then never was able to test in fog.

Thanks for the input and will be interested in your light test clear vs tape.

 

[ElectroBoy]

Yeah I had the same install problem with Laminx I tried before. Don’t think it was very good light wise so removed it. Did what you are doing, one clear and one Laminx, clear more light but then never was able to test in fog.

Thanks for the input and will be interested in your light test clear vs tape.

Well, I tried the comparison at night in clear weather. Tried to see the difference driving around the dark city streets and took some pics against a white wall. There definitely is yellow light but it’s pretty subtle. I agree there seems to be less brightness to the light, but that’s how our eyes work. The selective yellow gets rid of the blue which causes back scatter in fog. Fog lights are designed to do just that, low angle light to minimize light bouncing back into your eyes in really nasty slow driving conditions, so you can see the road and shoulders and stay on the road. Fog lights are not supposed to be used as regular low beam assisted driving lights.

I don’t drive at night in fog much or in snow storms. Those two scenarios would be the real test. I’ll keep an eye on the weather report for any foggy coastal conditions around here and see if I can get out there and notice any performance difference.

Anyway, here are some pics. Not very remarkable.

 

[Salvo Jimmy]

Well, I tried the comparison at night in clear weather. Tried to see the difference driving around the dark city streets and took some pics against a white wall. There definitely is yellow light but it’s pretty subtle. I agree there seems to be less brightness to the light, but that’s how our eyes work. The selective yellow gets rid of the blue which causes back scatter in fog. Fog lights are designed to do just that, low angle light to minimize light bouncing back into your eyes in really nasty slow driving conditions, so you can see the road and shoulders and stay on the road. Fog lights are not supposed to be used as regular low beam assisted driving lights.

I don’t drive at night in fog much or in snow storms. Those two scenarios would be the real test. I’ll keep an eye on the weather report for any foggy coastal conditions around here and see if I can get out there and notice any performance difference.

Anyway, here are some pics. Not very remarkable.

Thanks for the input. I too don’t venture out in really nasty stuff much anymore, but think I will try this tape after my next state inspection in August. Any film on a light lens except clear fails inspection. That way it can stay on for a year. Only had the laminx on a few weeks before I went for inspection and got told I would fail unless I removed it on the spot. Balked but was shown the requirement in the inspection book. Even shown where yellow bulbs would fail as not original equipment.

I live in Tidewater Virginia on the Chesapeake Bay and frequent our old fishin’ shack on Hatteras Island near Cape Hatteras. We get lots of fog in early morning both places, and lots of “sea fog” on the island as my location sticks out about 20 miles into the Atlantic, so will likely be able to get a good test in a year.