JAXJeremy
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I bought one of those too, when I got the new filter housing...considering how much I drive and the fact that I just had my first (courtesy) oil change only a month ago, it will be another year before I need to install it..
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I bought one of those too, when I got the new filter housing...considering how much I drive and the fact that I just had my first (courtesy) oil change only a month ago, it will be another year before I need to install it..
ElectroBoy
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Trying to make it easier...
I bought a couple of tools to make oil changes easier and less messy. Instead of a Fumoto valve I got a Valvomax oil draining system. It’s a great looking stainless steel ball valve design. To drain the oil you use a special screw-on adapter that depresses the spring-loaded ball that starts the flow. With an attached drain tube you can drain right into your recycling jug.
ValvoMax Oil Drain System
Since I recently had an oil change I needed to do the shop vac trick in order to remove the OEM drain bolt and install the Valvomax without dumping any oil. I was leery of this, so I had my big drain pan ready underneath just in case, but it really works! I took off the drain bolt and the oil stayed in the engine with a high velocity slurping sound. Check out a demo on YouTube:
YouTube
I’m going to keep an eye on the Valvomax for a few days to make sure it doesn’t leak.
More info:
The Valvomax website needs some updates. I emailed them to make sure I ordered the right part for my 2018 4R and the installation torque value. (PN VM12-1.25. To install, remove the external rubber o-ring and dust cap tether, use a deep 24mm socket to torque at 16-18 ft-lbs. Then re-install the o-ring and tether/cap). Also, they supply a metal gasket to use instead of the typical OEM fiber one.
The other tool I got was the Motivx oil filter drain tool. A similar concept, a screw-in device that depresses the spring loaded valve in the oil filter. And an attached poly tube to drain oil into a container.
Oil Filter Drain Tool for Toyota, Lexus, Scion 2.0L - 5.7L Engines - Motivx Tools
It will be a few months until my next oil change when I can actually test it all out. Fingers crossed.
I bought a couple of tools to make oil changes easier and less messy. Instead of a Fumoto valve I got a Valvomax oil draining system. It’s a great looking stainless steel ball valve design. To drain the oil you use a special screw-on adapter that depresses the spring-loaded ball that starts the flow. With an attached drain tube you can drain right into your recycling jug.
ValvoMax Oil Drain System
Since I recently had an oil change I needed to do the shop vac trick in order to remove the OEM drain bolt and install the Valvomax without dumping any oil. I was leery of this, so I had my big drain pan ready underneath just in case, but it really works! I took off the drain bolt and the oil stayed in the engine with a high velocity slurping sound. Check out a demo on YouTube:
YouTube
I’m going to keep an eye on the Valvomax for a few days to make sure it doesn’t leak.
More info:
The Valvomax website needs some updates. I emailed them to make sure I ordered the right part for my 2018 4R and the installation torque value. (PN VM12-1.25. To install, remove the external rubber o-ring and dust cap tether, use a deep 24mm socket to torque at 16-18 ft-lbs. Then re-install the o-ring and tether/cap). Also, they supply a metal gasket to use instead of the typical OEM fiber one.
The other tool I got was the Motivx oil filter drain tool. A similar concept, a screw-in device that depresses the spring loaded valve in the oil filter. And an attached poly tube to drain oil into a container.
Oil Filter Drain Tool for Toyota, Lexus, Scion 2.0L - 5.7L Engines - Motivx Tools
It will be a few months until my next oil change when I can actually test it all out. Fingers crossed.
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ElectroBoy
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It took a couple of days but I had a few emails from them. I told them about their website deficiencies in another email, sounds like they’re working on it.
That’s interesting and disturbing about the metal cover leaking. I have one waiting for my next oil change to install. Did you figure out where the leak was happening? At one of the rubber O-rings? At the cover body to engine interface, or from the drain plug?
mrblah
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if i didn't already have a fumoto valve, i would try this.
mteolus
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It was leaking out of the big threads. It is possible that the rubber gasket wasn't good quality as I used the one that came with it rather than the one with the oil filter. I did coat it with oil like I have always done and is recommended so it wasn't an installation problem.
Also, the cylinder that holds the filter in place was lower quality than factory so I used the factory one instead on the metal cover. Of course when I changed back to factory I put the factory cylinder back on.
I bought mine at NAPA. Maybe I just got a bad one. Or plastic is probably better for a good seal.
I always remove my RCI skid plate when changing oil but I'll look and see if opening it will be easy with the skid plate on. I think it should be.
Also, the cylinder that holds the filter in place was lower quality than factory so I used the factory one instead on the metal cover. Of course when I changed back to factory I put the factory cylinder back on.
I bought mine at NAPA. Maybe I just got a bad one. Or plastic is probably better for a good seal.
I always remove my RCI skid plate when changing oil but I'll look and see if opening it will be easy with the skid plate on. I think it should be.
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mrblah
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yes, it works really well with RCI skids... Its easy to reach and engage.
mrblah
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the fumoto valve or the filter canister that was leaking?
I got a metal OEM toyota filter canister that I never got around to replacing the hem plastic filter canister due to laziness...... My plan was to replace the plastic one if I ever damaged it.
Excellent, thank you for the confirmation, BTW, I was at an indy shop yesterday for my daughter's JK service, and the owner showed me a box full of cracked toyota composite housing, mostly from over torque at the dealers. He has been swapping with the aluminum ones for his other customers.
mteolus
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Fumoto valve is great, no leaks. Leak was coming through the outside threads of the metal filter housing through the big rubber gasket, whatever you call it. Wasn't leaking through the bottom part with the smaller gasket.
Perhaps the OEM Toyota one will work, that is what I should have done. One from NAPA must have been poor quality.
Perhaps the OEM Toyota one will work, that is what I should have done. One from NAPA must have been poor quality.
What torque value did you use for the Fumoto? Their chart indicated 15 ft lb while the factory drain plug is spec'd at 30 ft ib?
I have the Toyota aluminum housing ready to swap for the next change but now I am thinking of going with the Baxter spin-on adaptor and skip the 2-step "drain & remove" so that I can use traditional can.
headpaneer
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Can you post some photos of the Napa part? Curious to see how it compares to the OEM housing.
ElectroBoy
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I ordered the metal oil filter housing 15620-31060 from Amazon. It’s an actual OEM part. $23. Swapping the inner perforated tube looks pretty easy. Press down and rotate the tube CCW to remove the short tube. Press down and rotate CW to reinstall the longer tube from your OEM filter housing. It’s even embossed with the torque value 25+\- 5 Nm (18+\-3 ft-lb).
https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Toyo...+Cap+Assembly&qid=1565636380&s=gateway&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Toyo...+Cap+Assembly&qid=1565636380&s=gateway&sr=8-3
JAXJeremy
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that's the same one I got.
Hammer0313
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New 4Runner owner and that was a Huge help, thank you!
Hammer0313
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After you guys install the aluminum housing please let me know how it goes and the quality of the part. I’m very interested in this as well.
So happy that I found an oil thread :tea:
So happy that I found an oil thread :tea:
Jivewalker
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^^^this for me as well, except 8 years and 182,000 miles and 5k OCIs for the last 40k.
ElectroBoy
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This works for me...
I performed my first oil change using the ValvoMax that I installed a few months ago. I’ve checked on it occasionally to make sure it did not leak. Not a drop.
I connected a longer hose to the mating drain tool fitting and drained the oil right into two one-gallon jugs. At stock height and no ramps there’s not much room underneath so I had to position them just right. Due to the small diameter of the ValvoMax the oil drains slowly. After one gallon jug was almost full I pinched the tube and moved it to the second jug for the remaining 2+ quarts.
Using the MotivX oil filter drain tool was a snap. Just screw the fitting into the filter drain and pipe the oil into the gallon jug. No mess and no plastic drain thingy to deal with. However, removing the actual filter housing is a little messy with some drippage, so have a drain bucket and paper towels handy.
After removing and cleaning up the plastic oil filter housing I removed the longer perforated tube and installed it into a new metal filter housing. New filter, new gaskets, and everything fits well.
After refilling the oil I left the skid plate off for a day and made sure there were no leaks around the new filter housing. Looking good!
I performed my first oil change using the ValvoMax that I installed a few months ago. I’ve checked on it occasionally to make sure it did not leak. Not a drop.
I connected a longer hose to the mating drain tool fitting and drained the oil right into two one-gallon jugs. At stock height and no ramps there’s not much room underneath so I had to position them just right. Due to the small diameter of the ValvoMax the oil drains slowly. After one gallon jug was almost full I pinched the tube and moved it to the second jug for the remaining 2+ quarts.
Using the MotivX oil filter drain tool was a snap. Just screw the fitting into the filter drain and pipe the oil into the gallon jug. No mess and no plastic drain thingy to deal with. However, removing the actual filter housing is a little messy with some drippage, so have a drain bucket and paper towels handy.
After removing and cleaning up the plastic oil filter housing I removed the longer perforated tube and installed it into a new metal filter housing. New filter, new gaskets, and everything fits well.
After refilling the oil I left the skid plate off for a day and made sure there were no leaks around the new filter housing. Looking good!
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