1.5" lift Suspension Help/recommendations
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I'm very curious about your lift results because I have the same exact vehicle as you that I am looking to do a mild lift on. I already have in my possession a full set of the 5100s. I was thinking of setting the front to 1.75 and many other threads that I've read mention that at this setting in order to keep it level/have a slight rake, install a 1 inch lift in the rear. As a result I was thinking of the 1 inch cornfed spacer but would love to be able to do a coil if that were possible. You mentioned installing the T13 coil that is advertised as 1.5 inch lift and getting a 1 inch lift as the end result. However you paired it with a 2.5 setting in the front and you are still achieving a lift that is slightly lower in the front? Just trying to figure this out and gather real-time info before I tear into mine. I still have not purchased my rear lift option… Thanks for any input!
Glandnut
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Why not put the T13's on, go drive around for a couple days to see where it settles, then either go with the 1.75 or 2.5 based on your desired endpoint? That way you save yourself doing the front setting twice and alignment twice...
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Crikeymike
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Lifting the front may have shifted some weight to the rear, causing the rear to drop down a bit.
Give Wheelers a call and give them the info, see what their suggestions are.
I just installed the T13 coils on a friend's '14 SR5 yesterday, and I can't say I'm 100% happy with them.
While they do ride excellent with the 5100s, they only gave me 1" of lift. It's not horrible, but 1.5" is what I wanted, and it would have been PERFECT.
Rear went from 21 3/4" to 22 3/4"
I used the stock coils on 5100 set to 2.5" on the front. The tape measure tells me I got about 2 1/4" lift from that setting.
Don't get me wrong- I think it sits great. But I HATE a saggy rear, so I want to make sure it never looks saggy(i.e. With passengers, IKEA furniture, Nordstrom bags from the mall, parked facing up on a hill(at the mall), etc)
FWIW, tires are 285/70.
Hmmm I have t13's and 285/70/17 waiting in garage. And i agree that this setup doesn't look quite right. And my 4Runner is a Limited which is heavier because of the AWD and 3rd Row.
Might have to look into the wheelers return policy
Shred_Head
New member
Thanks! I never took any before/after measurements of my lift, but I definitely don't think i got 3" from the 884 coils... probably somewhere around 2.5" I would guess. The SAW coils look like they did settle a little but i can't say how much... I do have some added weight (cargo drawers, sliders, skids, roof rack) since i originally installed my lift so that probably added to the settling.
Here's a shot a few weeks after i installed the lift, and it does look like it sits a bit higher than it does currently:
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stphnman20
Member
Billets with 884 set at 0 in the front gave me 2.5" and the sway-a-way rears gave me 1.5"
Tyler James Inc
Senior Member
1.5" lift Suspension Help/recommendations
That's only 1.5" rear?! Looks like 2.5" front and rear! Looks like you have a good 2" of rake.
stphnman20
Member
2" of rake? lol no way. Rake is about an inch.
Tyler James Inc
Senior Member
1.5" lift Suspension Help/recommendations
Nice.
What's your center of hub to bottom of flare measurements? And from the ground- for shts 'n gigs.
Nice.
What's your center of hub to bottom of flare measurements? And from the ground- for shts 'n gigs.
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stphnman20
Member
I had them written down somewhere. I'll get them tonight and post it.
Found it:
FL
B- 20.5
A- 23
FR
B- 20.5
A- 23
RL
B- 22
A- 24
RR
B- 22.5
A- 24.5
I didn't do anything on the driver side as you can tell. So the driver side is about 1inch of rake and the passenger side is 1.5 rake. It's almost stock rake.
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Guys,
So I took some before measurements, and I don't get the math. ground to bottom of the fender is 34" front, 37" rear. How are people getting a level stance with a 3" lift in the front and a 2" lift in the rear? Am I missing something?
And I thank everyone for the input. After a few days of looking over some of the recommendations, here is what I figure I would go with.
Fronts,
Toytec Boss suspension. I figure this gives me the option of running around 2.5" of lift in the front. Any higher than that, and i can get a set of UCA's.
Rear.
Toytec Boss shock w/ SAW 1.5" coil.
From what I understand, this coil should give me somewhere between 1 - 1.5" lift in the back and I can lift the front This should still give me a slight lift with a level look that I'm hoping for. Perhaps?
So I took some before measurements, and I don't get the math. ground to bottom of the fender is 34" front, 37" rear. How are people getting a level stance with a 3" lift in the front and a 2" lift in the rear? Am I missing something?
And I thank everyone for the input. After a few days of looking over some of the recommendations, here is what I figure I would go with.
Fronts,
Toytec Boss suspension. I figure this gives me the option of running around 2.5" of lift in the front. Any higher than that, and i can get a set of UCA's.
Rear.
Toytec Boss shock w/ SAW 1.5" coil.
From what I understand, this coil should give me somewhere between 1 - 1.5" lift in the back and I can lift the front This should still give me a slight lift with a level look that I'm hoping for. Perhaps?
and another question... Toytec 2.0 or 2.5? the 2.5 looks much stronger, and has better reviews that the 2.0. I've read the reviews and some of the build threads, but there doesn't seem to be much justification in going with one vs the other.
Since this will most likely be a daily driver and weekend adventure vehicle, the 2.0 is probably all I need, but the 2.5 looks pretty awesome. Just not sure if its worth the additional cost (1900US). At that price point, is there anything comparable that I should look at as well?
Thanks again for helping a newbie out.
Since this will most likely be a daily driver and weekend adventure vehicle, the 2.0 is probably all I need, but the 2.5 looks pretty awesome. Just not sure if its worth the additional cost (1900US). At that price point, is there anything comparable that I should look at as well?
Thanks again for helping a newbie out.
stphnman20
Member
Yes, that was right after the lift. Now it settled right at 1.5"
stphnman20
Member
[MENTION=127937]Sauce839[/MENTION] Measure from center of the hub to the fender.
GearJunkie88
New member
From what I understand, that SAW 1.5" coil usually yields 2" of lift instead of 1.5". In contrast, the Wheeler's T13 1.5" coil is yielding between 1" and 1.5".
In terms of the math - there is some debate about where measurements should be taken. Some folks say that if the front and rear wheel wells are exactly the same height from the ground, the body will appear level, but the frame will actually be rear-low. So, if you want the frame to be level, you actually have to plan for the front fender to be a little lower than the rear fender.
GearJunkie88
New member
EDIT - just read the text on the Wheelers site about the SAW coil. Now not totally sure if there are differences among SAW, Eibach, and Wheelers coils.
The SAW coil is available on the ToyTec website- Sway-A-Way Rear 1.5" Lift Coils
It is also available on the Wheelers website - https://wheelersoffroad.com/product...urg-477817/sway-a-way-1-5-lift-rear-coil-set/
On the Wheelers site, the T13 coil can be found under the Eibach brand name and the Wheelers brand name.
I think the SAW coil is different from the Eibach/Wheelers coil.
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Glandnut
New member
Thanks, I thought SAW got out of or was absorbed by some other company but good to know they are still at it.
Edit- May be old stock Toytec has as SwayaWay sold their shock division to aFe Power and is sticking to sway and torsion bars and bushings.
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Edit- May be old stock Toytec has as SwayaWay sold their shock division to aFe Power and is sticking to sway and torsion bars and bushings.
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