JB.
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Nothing wrong with any of that as long as the CUV label is used. The problem is Ford doesn't. It's just a further erosion/perversion of the term SUV, loudly trumpeted, in fact, on the Ford Explorer page -- "SUV, 100% Reinvented"
2010 4Runner vs 2011 Explorer
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Nothing wrong with any of that as long as the CUV label is used. The problem is Ford doesn't. It's just a further erosion/perversion of the term SUV, loudly trumpeted, in fact, on the Ford Explorer page -- "SUV, 100% Reinvented"
harper7
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I doubt you will ever see one lifted because they don't make lift kits for the a Ford Taurus or Mercury Montego that these are based off off using the same D body. How about a lifted Windstar mini van?lol
BTW they have been making these Taurus station wagons Ford Taurus X - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(CUV's) for 5 out of the last 6 years under 3 different names and just keep putting different lipstick on them. Only now,Ford marketing now has the nerve to call it a SUV still.
It would be like Toyota renaming the Venza a 4Runner and see if anybody notices.
RonMAIDEN
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The Ford satifies the needs of it's market buyer and that what Ford wants;How many 4Runners actually see the off road duty that they are intended for? I bet less than 10% ande even on the trails here I rarely even see a 4th gen 4runner off road.
It's just silly to compare the two.
It's just silly to compare the two.
Agreed. I'd have no beef if they called it what it is... a CUV. Take a look at the Highlander gallery on toyota.com... all photos show it on pavement. There is no pretense that it does anything but haul the family around in a tall wagon. FWIW, when people ask me about my 4Runner, I normally direct them toward a Highlander unless they actually plan on taking it offroad. The onroad ride, interior space, and features are superior to the 4Runner.
Who said anything about the Raptor? Criticizing one Ford doesn't automatically criticize them all. I agree that Toyota should definitely have a locking rear diff on the Tundra like they do the TRD Off Road Tacoma, but it isn't like the Off Road model is a FWD biased, unit body truck.
Will733
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The Tyrannosaurus Rex is better than a Velociraptor.
hey, at least now you are comparing apples to apples.....er, dinosaurs to dinosaurs.
Well, the TRex is a solo hunter and the Raptor is a pack hunter... so, while they are both carnivores, they aren't really the comparable. :lol:
And.... Dodge T-Rex.
And....
Not sure if you realize this or not, but the reason that's done is mostly for fuel efficiency. It doesn't mean much in the real world because most people just don't put an SUV in a situation where the front lip would be ripped off. I think Jeep has it right with the new Grand Cherokee. The lip is relatively low, but it is removable if you do end up in a situation where it can be damaged offroad.
You might wanna spend less time reading 500 of my posts. That's a major fail right there. LOLOLOL
Yes, I'm aware that is why the air dam sits so low... which is why I said "for mpg purposes" in the post you quoted. Air dams for fuel efficiency is pretty common automotive knowledge. The GM Lamda CUVs, GM trucks, and refreshed Highlander have the same thing.
My irritation with these "SUVs" is the fact that they are marketed as go-anywhere vehicles that are then saddled with a low front air dam so the marketing team can claim 1 more MPG than the competition. Call it what it is.... a tall station wagon a.k.a. CUV.
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SeattleMike
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snow&surf
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True. Still fails! It also looks like they copied the placement and style of the Toyota rear emblem badging.
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tlflow
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True, ... the federal government could take your posts, and print them, and grind them up and pile them up on the interstates, you know along the side, and we could just coast from town to town because they suck so much, the huge vacuum they would create would just pull us down the road any where we wanted to go ... all of the grass would get fertilized; because plants like manure so much ... so it's good for the environment too.
True, ... the federal government could take your posts, and print them, and grind them up and pile them up on the interstates, you know along the side, and we could just coast from town to town because they suck so much, the huge vacuum they would create would just pull us down the road any where we wanted to go ... all of the grass would get fertilized; because plants like manure so much ... so it's good for the environment too.
T4Fun
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snow&surf
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I'm putting the debate to bed for all to witness. May it rest in peace in SUV heaven. Don't bother looking at the FJ, look at the MINIVAN next to it and compare ground clearance. Explorer FAIL!
