2014 4Runner Fog Light HID Conversion
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philsey
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Whiteshadow89158
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Good job fmulino, they look great. I just put 6000k hid's in my low beams and couldn't be happier. I'll be doing the fogs next when it's warmer or more dry.
fmulino
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OK guys I was away for most of the Christmas Break, I'll try to take a picture against a wall this weekend, I drove my car about 2000 Km during Christmas and mostly during night time, yes the Fog Light's HID are definitely blinding, oncoming drivers will flash the high beams just so I turn my Fog Lights off. So I ended up using them as if they were High Beams, The reason why I do this and not just use the high beams is because my high beams are also my DTRL, and I can't upgrade the high beams to HID, I changed the stock lights in my previous car and on this one as well because of the Deer crossing the highway, I almost got into an accident one time because they kinda blend in with the stock color of my lights. After I upgraded to 6,000K I can better see them coming. So I'll keep using my Fog Lights as High Beams since I can't put HIDs on my real high beams without getting the flickering when the DTRL is active. I took some pics with the new tires and the lights on.
Midmo_Tundra
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I've worked with many 4th gen (06-09) 4runners and they had the halogen projectors also. If the 14 projectors are similar to the 4th gen projectors, they are decent with a drop in kit, but not the best with a drop-in HID kit. Basically the "drop off" on the cutoff becomes non-existent. But it's still not as bad in regards to glare as a regular reflector headlight with drop in HIDs.
The 4runner (4th gen at least) has really good projectors for being halogens, IMO.
I'm curious when someone opens a headlight what the part number on the projector is. I'm willing to bet that the halogen projectors in the 14 4runners are an updated version of the 4th gen halogen projector or the same projector used in the Camry.
The 4runner (4th gen at least) has really good projectors for being halogens, IMO.
I'm curious when someone opens a headlight what the part number on the projector is. I'm willing to bet that the halogen projectors in the 14 4runners are an updated version of the 4th gen halogen projector or the same projector used in the Camry.
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fmulino
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Hi [MENTION=105443]trojunman[/MENTION] how did you turn the DTRL into HIDs? I had LED bulbs on my previous car but that meant I didn't have High Beams at all, can you share that info? Also I did the same conversion for interior lighting on my 4Runner but yours look a lot brighter what brand/type of leds did you use? I like how your lights are looking I got the revers light chaged for LED already too I'm happy with how it looks, the only yellow bulbs I still have are the ones inside the side mirrors I don't remember how they are called but I couldn't get them out, if you did take them out can you shar some info on that as well? Thanks... Nice Truck BTW.
TEQ.FZJ
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Gotta love keyboard warriors. I don't understand how someone can honestly say that the glare from HIDs in halogen projectors like this is unsafe or dangerous:
When stock halogen headlights with halogen bulbs glare more than my old math teacher. If anything needs to be made illegal, it should be ALL reflector housing headlights.
When stock halogen headlights with halogen bulbs glare more than my old math teacher. If anything needs to be made illegal, it should be ALL reflector housing headlights.
mace.
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Gotta love keyboard warriors. I don't understand how someone can honestly say that the glare from HIDs in halogen projectors like this is unsafe or dangerous:
When stock halogen headlights with halogen bulbs glare more than my old math teacher. If anything needs to be made illegal, it should be ALL reflector housing headlights.
From HIDPlanet:
"A commom event here at hidplanet.com is the picture with the clean cut off. While that is 1 way to evaluate light, it is not the standard that the lamps are designed to.
Safety, for the driver and other drivers is a major driving force in the design and bulb choose. Lumination in the proper places is also a major considerstion.
light is desgned to be in the correct places so your eyes don't get tired or fixated on a particular spot. There is also concern the the distance light fades properly.
I have taken the reports from the above site and created a condensed version (see repots at website for FULL disclosure)"
But hey, I'm sure your calibrated eyeballs outperform any testing equipment they have.
We could go back and forth as to whether we had proof if it was safe or unsafe. Without out facts either way, the appropriate thing to do would be to defer to not doing it as that is the conservative known and tested approach. If we find out that the projector is used in HID applications I'm sure many on here will be fine with that. If someone is just posting to get a warm and fuzzy that it will be good enough you are going to get honest responses to what they think.
nothing like using 2 different pictures of different vehicles and different background (and likely different camera and settings as well) to try and prove a point..... :thumb:
Hawaiian4runner
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Good catch. You think it's a deliberate attempt to deceive? The garage doors are so similar but yet different so I'm a little suspicious myself.
eddiebx
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I doubt it's a deliberate attempt at deception...more like ignorance is bliss, lol.
What you guys don't see is the two beam pattern's output relative to each other. The problem with just taking an individual picture in auto mode on a camera is, it will adjust the exposure so pretty much all headlights look the same if captured individually. I can take a picture of my DRL beam pattern output against a garage and make it appear blindingly bright, but obviously that's not the case.
Another thing to consider is, the output glare from a halogen 55w bulb is absolutely nothing compared to what a 35w HID bulb puts out, so we're really comparing apples to oranges here. If you don't believe me, go look directly in a 55w low beam headlight; I would be surprised if you are momentarily blinded from that output. This is why DOT/ECE or whom ever has deemed it "safe enough" to allow some glare to escape from a reflector based halogen headlight, since it's not all that blinding to begin with.
TEQ.FZJ
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You guys will do anything to prove a point.
First it was all about glare in other driver's eyes. Then it's about our eyes, so we don't get fixated on a certain spot. WTF. When you saw pics from the front you said that' not good enough, we need to see them aimed at a wall. Then when you saw them aimed a wall with a fairly clean cutoff, you said pooey, it must be the camera exposure settings and beam light source ocular diffusion concentration.
I don't need pie charts and scatter diagrams and 20-page dissertations from forum nazis to see that an HID bulb in a Halogen projector from a 2014 4Runner produces a CLEAN cutoff with a minimal amount of glare.
Like I said, a stock halogen reflector with halogen bulbs produces more glare. Add a 3" lift to that truck and BOOM. Where is that glare going? Right in the eyes of oncoming traffic with stock height cars.
First it was all about glare in other driver's eyes. Then it's about our eyes, so we don't get fixated on a certain spot. WTF. When you saw pics from the front you said that' not good enough, we need to see them aimed at a wall. Then when you saw them aimed a wall with a fairly clean cutoff, you said pooey, it must be the camera exposure settings and beam light source ocular diffusion concentration.
I don't need pie charts and scatter diagrams and 20-page dissertations from forum nazis to see that an HID bulb in a Halogen projector from a 2014 4Runner produces a CLEAN cutoff with a minimal amount of glare.
Like I said, a stock halogen reflector with halogen bulbs produces more glare. Add a 3" lift to that truck and BOOM. Where is that glare going? Right in the eyes of oncoming traffic with stock height cars.
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mace.
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TEQ.FZJ
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Prove me wrong. You have nothing to base your decision on. You're speculating based on testing done in DIFFERENT applications, not this one. The ironic thing is, we're both deferring to our calibrated eyeballs as neither of us has factual data.
I don't know anything about HIDs or how much they will or won't glare in '14 projector housings.
But I DO know that my '12 factory headlights after a 3" lift (stock bulbs) are a disaster. BRUTAL glare, annoying as hell for oncoming traffic and cars in front of me. I get flashed all the time.
I need to adjust them ASAP but the glare from the stock headlights isn't great, and once lifted is a complete mess. :frusty:
mace.
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I know that neither of us has factual data. Whether or not I can prove this or that doesn't really matter as I would play it safe and not do it. On the other hand you don't show any regard for other drivers as you "factually" don't know either. At this point you must admit that you have no idea either and that they just "look good" to you. Until they are proven safe, they should be considered unsafe.
If you are so certain, why don't you take it to HIDPlanet and prove us all wrong.
Jeremy556
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So adjust them. It is very easy, just takes a phillips screwdriver. There is a plastic channel leading to a metal adjuster gear that the #2 phillips fits into.
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