2015 RWD SR5 questions (Dont Flame)

I've only had RWD 4Runners (picked up my third one yesterday). Don't need 4WD -- the closest I'll get to "off roading" is a gravel parking lot.

Why do I keep choosing the 4Runner?

- The upright seating position suits me. Might not work for others, but I like sitting up high and without a lot of dashboard area in front of me

- Great visibility. I can see where the hood ends. The A-pillars are way forward and more vertical than most crossovers or cars (I recently drove a rental Buick Lacrosse -- you could easily lose a pedestrian or bicyclist behind the A-pillar if you're not careful)

- Versatile interior. the 4Runner can haul 5 adults and luggage without breaking a sweat (try that in a 3rd gen Highlander Limited with the second row captains chairs). I've carried long objects by folding down the center portion of the rear seat. Hauled exercise equipment, large TVs, and other things that would be tough to squeeze into a car.

I take all that with the downsides of a 4Runner. This is what I tell people when they ask if I'd recommend my 4Runner.

- If fuel economy is the top priority, the 4Runner is not the right choice (also meaning -- if the difference in fuel economy between the RWD and 4WD version is significant enough to be important to you, you're probably setting yourself up to be disappointed)

- It's not a sports car and will neither accelerate nor handle like one -- the good ol' V6 and 5-speed auto aren't going to make you think you bought a Mustang. (And, yes, the 5-speed is "old," as almost any reviewer will point out -- however, I'd prefer something that's proven reliable vs. the 9-speed debacle Jeep has with the Cherokee)

- It's not a minivan. If you carry more than 4 or 5 people on a regular basis, get a minivan. Not a midsize crossover, but a minivan (the Sienna has an AWD model).

All that being stated, if it comes down to price and/or resale value, take a look at your dealers' inventories. If they are mostly 4WD, you'll probably have a better chance getting a good deal on a 4WD model vs. asking them to special order a RWD for you, along with stronger demand for 4WD when you resell it.

If it's mostly RWD models, I'd pocket the savings and not worry about resale as much, as you'll likely find that most of your potential buyers are looking for RWD anyway (dealerships stock what people want to buy).
 
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Toyota clearly indicates that the SR5 4x4 is 275 lbs. heavier than 4x2... We aren't talking about Limiteds or Trail editions.

No one needs to get over anything, everyone has said if op doesn't feel the need for 4x4 but wants the other aspects it should be fine. The only clarification is that the small amount of weight is negligible in handling. If the op feels different based on the seat of the pants test then great.

OK, sorry I was looking at it from the general perspective of someone deciding between a 4x4 and 4x2 model. I did not read carefully enough to see the OP was looking only at an SR5 model. I still think it is at least 350lbs more, but I have no way to prove it. Not sure what makes the trail 75lbs more than the sr5 4x4... Maybe the additional skid plates... Toyota gets to fudge the numbers a little. Things like a sunroof... will add weight, so who knows what the real numbers are.

I'm saying get over it because I find many people on here have serious trouble admitting any flaw in their precious 4runner. It's a truck just like all the rest and has to adhere to the same laws of physics as the rest of the world. Additionally, every single thing you add to a vehicle has pros and cons. 4 wheel drive has many pros if you need it, but it also has cons. A 4x4 4 runner is not the end all be all. In fact, the 4x2 is actually better on the road. And that is a fact that can be backed up with repeatable tests. You can't put 275lbs over the front wheels and not feel it and have it impact measured road manners... There are other downsides to 4x4, but I won't bother to go in to it. If you need it or just want it for fun, then great, otherwise it is a 275+lb anchor that you carry in the front of your truck.
 
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Not sure what makes the trail 75lbs more than the sr5 4x4... Maybe the additional skid plates... Toyota gets to fudge the numbers a little. Things like a sunroof... will add weight, so who knows what the real numbers are.

the trail has skid plates, kdss cylinders and lines, and the sway bars are thicker and heavier.. the hood scoop might also add weight and the locker unit adds weight.. i could see the trail being 75lbs heavier
 
the trail has skid plates, kdss cylinders and lines, and the sway bars are thicker and heavier.. the hood scoop might also add weight and the locker unit adds weight.. i could see the trail being 75lbs heavier

Sure, but the KDSS is an option as is the sunroof... hard to say what options they use for the reported curb weights. Not sure the locker would count for much, but the additional skid could be some of it. It all adds up pretty fast.
 
Sure, but the KDSS is an option as is the sunroof... hard to say what options they use for the reported curb weights. Not sure the locker would count for much, but the additional skid could be some of it. It all adds up pretty fast.

Toyota breaks out curb weights by trim level (Not just SR5, but SR5 Premium as well) and drivetrain, so pretty sure the weight of the sunroof is accounted for.
 
Toyota breaks out curb weights by trim level (Not just SR5, but SR5 Premium as well) and drivetrain, so pretty sure the weight of the sunroof is accounted for.
Where did you see this. I have seen GVWR, but not curb weight by trim level.
 
Google "toyota 4runner curb weight." First hit: Toyota 4Runner Interior, Exterior & Safety Features

It will default to three trims, but allow you to add or change as you see fit. Make sure you click on the "Weights/Capacities" tab as well.

Right, but they list the same weight for all the trim levels in the same configuration. My point, is that they do some rounding and averaging. They could also be dry weights.... It's not that important at all, but I would think the sunroof would weigh something measurable.

I'm not sure why I'm following this thread :playball:
 
Right, but they list the same weight for all the trim levels in the same configuration. My point, is that they do some rounding and averaging. They could also be dry weights.... It's not that important at all, but I would think the sunroof would weigh something measurable.

I'm not sure why I'm following this thread :playball:

Ah - I see now. I thought that they gave different values for the SR5 4x2 versus the SR5 4x2 Premium (for example), but they don't. In any case, it does show the difference going from 4x2 to 4x4, which is what's relevant to the topic at hand. But really - it doesn't matter. No one's arguing that the 4WD system adds weight somewhere in the hundreds of pounds. I'm not sure having an exact value changes anyone's argument.
 
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