24's on 3rd gen...
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Shonuup
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I don't think there is anything wrong with going for a big wheel. Some like to go off-roading and some like it on the street. I run 22's on a lowered suspension and have no problems. As far as handling, I recommend upgrading your brakes to a tundra kit to help stop. However, to answer your question if you were to do anything larger than 22's the tire's sidewall would barely protect the wheels from any damage. BUT it can and has been done. Check out my signature.
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RonMAIDEN
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The problem still exists of problems of early wear and tear and the stress and weight of big wheels on the hubs especially if you paln on putting alot of miles on your truck.
If you are just goign to keep the vehcile for a few years you won't be dealing with any issues but if you plan on driving your Runner shod with wagon wheels for 100,000 miles you will pay for it. My friend is a Toyota mechanic and he's seeing alot of older cars/trucks coming in with premature wear on wheel parts associated with big wheels.
I do find the combo of 4wd and big wheels is an oxymoron since the big wheels cancel out any real effectiveness of the 4wd.
Kinda like showing off your cool hunting knife but can only spread butter with it.
If you are just goign to keep the vehcile for a few years you won't be dealing with any issues but if you plan on driving your Runner shod with wagon wheels for 100,000 miles you will pay for it. My friend is a Toyota mechanic and he's seeing alot of older cars/trucks coming in with premature wear on wheel parts associated with big wheels.
I do find the combo of 4wd and big wheels is an oxymoron since the big wheels cancel out any real effectiveness of the 4wd.
Kinda like showing off your cool hunting knife but can only spread butter with it.
RonMAIDEN
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Plus the stock brakes are overtaxed and there's failure potential and not to mention the stress on the stock hubs which will lead to premature wear and replacement of said parts. IMO the look isn't worth the wear and tear and the sacrifice of nearly every performance aspect but it's the individuals choice to make that decision.
I wouldn't go bigger than an 18 on a 3rd gen if it was just for the street only or at least do the brake upgrade for safety reasons.
I wouldn't go bigger than an 18 on a 3rd gen if it was just for the street only or at least do the brake upgrade for safety reasons.
labphantom
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I think that it is all about personal taste. Myself I like the looks of 20's on a 4runner. I've gotta set on order for my 04 as we speak or type however you would have it.
RonMAIDEN
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Sheezy's wheel tire combo is considerably more heavy (chrome plating isn;t light) than what came stock plus the hubs arent' designed to have that large of wheel connected to them and there is more stress directly on the hub.
I'm betting 22"s adds over 60-80lbs per corner and when it becomes rolling mass then it's even heavier.
My friend is a mechanic for a dealership and he's seeing more people having to have hub related parts replaced much sooner than is expected and it's people with oversize rims on their vehicles when they came with 16" or so from the factory.
I'm betting 22"s adds over 60-80lbs per corner and when it becomes rolling mass then it's even heavier.
My friend is a mechanic for a dealership and he's seeing more people having to have hub related parts replaced much sooner than is expected and it's people with oversize rims on their vehicles when they came with 16" or so from the factory.
RonMAIDEN
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Fo_SheeZy said:
Good and wise upgrade and yes,off roading puts wear and tear but Toyota did design things with off roading in mind and the engineering behind the 4Runner as a whole is built to endure stress of the occasional off road trip.
Oversize rims stress the vehicle every moment that is driven.
KU_MechE
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Fo_SheeZy said:
I would not consider cross drilled rotors an upgrade. you have less stopping power and are prone to stress cracks now. cross drilled should serve you fine, but i don't see any advantage.
fosheezy, what are the dimensions of your setup? tire diameter, tire weight + wheel weight?
I measured my xtra stock '99 split 3-spoke 4runner wheel to be 22.2lbs. the stock dunlop grandtrek21 weigh 39lbs.
this gives a total weight of 61.2lbs @ 31" stock per corner. .
Fo_Sheezy:
I checked a few sizes and weights on tirerack and found a 22" x 9.5" averaged about 40lbs. the recommended tire size is 285/45-22. the tire weights seemed to average 40lbs also. the tire diameter is 32"
source:
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Whee...odel=Avalanche+Z71&autoYear=2007&autoModClar=
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec....OR0AXL&tirePageLocQty=&partnum=845VR2SCOR0AXL
I estimate you're adding about 18lbs to your setup and an additional 1/2" (31" vs 32" distance to the ground). or a difference of 29.4% from stock.
now, as for RonMAiden: just to compare,
a 265/75-16 Nitto TG weighs about 47lbs @ 32" dia.
source:
http://www.yotatech.com/f2/terra-grappler-weight-91966/
A similar Bridgestone Revo weighs about 48lbs. It seems that the average weight difference for the 265/70 vs 265/75 upgrade is 7lbs. So I'm guessing you're sitting at 68.2lbs per corner. or a difference of 11.4% from stock.
compared to your rig, Fo_Sheezy has added about 18lbs @ the same diameter so that makes a difference of 11 lbs or 16%.
to put things in perspective, a 33" Wrangler MTR weighs 55lbs or a difference of 16lbs from stock. there are quite a few people running 33" muds and fosheezy's setup is very comparable. you are adding extra wear and tear to the drivetrain, but it's nothing I would worry about.
Ok, I hope i didn't offend anybody. just trying to get to the bottom of the issue with real numbers. please make any necessary corrections.
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