fourfive
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I've thought about making one just haven't gotten around to it.
285 vs. 315
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I've thought about making one just haven't gotten around to it.
White Stripe
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You have a sweet 4runner. Would be interested to get more info on it.
fourfive
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Thanks. I'll get around to it one day. Feel free to pm me if you have any questions.
Scramble
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I second this motion! :wave:
JWaldz
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4.5" BS and stock UCA's is going to be hard to clear 35's without spacers.
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Daneums
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I have spc UCAs
fourfive
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Not sure about stock UCAs but with SPC, I was able make adjustments to clear my 315s from the UCA without spacers. However, with upto .75" spacers on a 4.5" backspace wheel I would still get frame rub at full lock. If I remember correctly, the 1.25" spacer eliminated the frame rub but led to rubbing my fender flares. I went back to .75" spacers mainly because I wanted the smallest bolt on spacer possible.
Everything I just stated was with pavement driving and I run front spacers only.
JWaldz
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I don't know much about the SPC's. I'd imagine you can dial it in. You're gonna be damn close probably.
__C__H__R__I__S__
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I'm on the toytec boss setup with a 2" body lift I don't rub at full lock with 315s with a 3.5 backspace rim (daily drivin):rockon:
rideexileex
Senior Member
It's one thing not to rub while driving on the pavement...Can it be said while stuffed and offroading?
I see too many trucks on here with 315's / 35's that look like they've never hit the dirt. I wonder why waste the money on tires, gas, and just being slow all for looks? 35's are great for actual off road function, but they suck for just about everything else on our 4Runners.
I see too many trucks on here with 315's / 35's that look like they've never hit the dirt. I wonder why waste the money on tires, gas, and just being slow all for looks? 35's are great for actual off road function, but they suck for just about everything else on our 4Runners.
aeroneer1
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That's good to hear. I'm considering going up on my next set of rubber. Since moving from Colorado to Seattle, I'm not too concerned about the lack of power either. I would still want to find that size as a D-load rated, but I'm not sure that's possible. Mine's got plenty of power all loaded up with 33's. Having all other steering/suspension/brakes/engine components in top working order makes a huge difference.
rideexileex
Senior Member
I lived in Seattle with 33's, a supercharger, 2.1 pulley and URD kit, on stock 4.10 gears. It was great, and I had no complaints at all.
Then I got 35's. I could do 70 all day too, but it was in 3rd gear. 4th gear was useless. I dont understand how people on a NA engine, stock gears, and no supercharger say they have enough power. Mine felt like a dog.
fourfive
Senior Member
On my setup, with mild trails to get to fishing or shooting spots I rub more than pavement driving but it is about the same as when I had 285s because with the 285s I didn't have a 2" body lift. Most of the rubbing I get on mild trails depends on how harsh or careless I'm driving.
Not trying to change any minds, just my best attempt at explaining this. It's probably similar to people that enjoy firearms of various types, calibers, & generations that don't hunt or have seen any battlefields & are just fired at the range. Some firearms cost a lot more to shoot and maintain and serve no other purpose than looking cool & fun to shoot. There are cheaper options that are cheaper to shoot, maintain & still go bang when needed but for some, the excess makes things a little more fun.
Sean K.
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It's their property....not mine. They can use it however they wish.
People's versions of "offroading" vary greatly.....I know some very nice overlanding folks that consider driving on dirt roads that could literally be traversed by just about any car with even a modicum of ground clearance and stopping to brew coffee as an offroading "adventure". That's their thing....nothing wrong with it....though I will admit I didn't appreciate being told we were going "wheeling" only to find out we'd be doing a mobile Starbucks impersonation while driving a powerline trail, LOL.
At the other end of the spectrum, I know guys that don't care about body damage and will take a full bodied rig through some of the nastiest trails out there and when they are done, their vehicles aren't even recognizable as a certain make b/c the are just wrinkled up raisins with doors that either can't open or no doors at all.
Again, it's their choice and property, not mine. I don't begrudge either group b/c that's not my intended use or I wouldn't want to own something that looked in that poor of shape.
Honestly, my 4Runner build is more about seeing what I can make on a lower budget than it is about ultimate offroad capability. I doubt I'll run anything harder in it than Highway to Hell and I'd like to be able to keep the body panels in tact so it doesn't look beat to hell. But that's just me.
There's a saying in AZ: You can tell who actually 4wheels their trucks by looking at the wheels. No rock rash....they don't wheel it on anything "serious" (whatever that means). It pretty much can't be avoided here.
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JayRolla
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It's their property....not mine. They can use it however they wish.
People's versions of "offroading" vary greatly.....I know some very nice overlanding folks that consider driving on dirt roads that could literally be traversed by just about any car with even a modicum of ground clearance and stopping to brew coffee as an offroading "adventure". That's their thing....nothing wrong with it....though I will admit I didn't appreciate being told we were going "wheeling" only to find out we'd be doing a mobile Starbucks impersonation while driving a powerline trail, LOL.
At the other end of the spectrum, I know guys that don't care about body damage and will take a full bodied rig through some of the nastiest trails out there and when they are done, their vehicles aren't even recognizable as a certain make b/c the are just wrinkled up raisins with doors that either can't open or no doors at all.
Again, it's their choice and property, not mine. I don't begrudge either group b/c that's not my intended use or I wouldn't want to own something that looked in that poor of shape.
Honestly, my 4Runner build is more about seeing what I can make on a lower budget than it is about ultimate offroad capability. I doubt I'll run anything harder in it than Highway to Hell and I'd like to be able to keep the body panels in tact so it doesn't look beat to hell. But that's just me.
There's a saying in AZ: You can tell who actually 4wheels their trucks by looking at the wheels. No rock rash....they don't wheel it on anything "serious" (whatever that means). It pretty much can't be avoided here.
Wish I could like this 100 times!
Completely agree. Loved your broken Arrow trail. Jeep Tour guys was saying they would never bring nice rigs like ours on that trail because they could get damaged. We laughed and I said it's fine because we have skills. Trail was a cake walk on 33s
Sean K.
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Ya, I've done it bone stock (265s) in the Runner, loaded up with 5 adults on numerous occasions. Out of staters love that trip....so when we have guests, we normally take them if we're in the area. It's not at all difficult, but it has great views and for those unaccustomed to wheeling, there's the one steep downhill (and optional steep uphill) that gets their attention and gives them a thrill. My MIL was hilarious on the trip....I think she finally got why her daughter liked 4wheeling.
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Sean K.
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My wife reminded me the other day that we did the whole trail in her TJ without the 4wd working. We didn't do one of the optional climbs (we did it in the 4Runner....had family in town and had 6 people in the two vehicles)....but we did do the big downhill (not that you need 4wd for downhills).
Tyler James Inc
Senior Member
I'm glad this got bumped, 'cause I didn't want to bump it just to say I run 5" BS wheels with 315's, and only have minimal UCA rubbing. More of an issue than the UCA- for me- is the frame rubbing. That's super annoying. At full droop often(pre-load spacer on stock shocks mean max droop just getting on freeway on-ramps [emoji23]), I have very little sidewall affected. Picture is at 9k miles-
FWIW, I meant to get the 4.5" BS wheels, and really wish I would have realized these were 5".
Wheel width makes a difference as well- a 315 on a 7.5" wheel with 5" BS will rub on the UCA FAR worse than a 315 on a 9" wide wheel. The inside lip will be in the same location(distance from UCA) on both wheels, but the outside lip being 1.5" further "in" will cause the sidewall to be shoved in... .75"? closer to the UCA.
Fitting "big" tires with minimal trimming is a little bit of an art. Keeping the scrub radius to a minimum is very helpful- for many reasons.
FWIW, I meant to get the 4.5" BS wheels, and really wish I would have realized these were 5".
Wheel width makes a difference as well- a 315 on a 7.5" wheel with 5" BS will rub on the UCA FAR worse than a 315 on a 9" wide wheel. The inside lip will be in the same location(distance from UCA) on both wheels, but the outside lip being 1.5" further "in" will cause the sidewall to be shoved in... .75"? closer to the UCA.
Fitting "big" tires with minimal trimming is a little bit of an art. Keeping the scrub radius to a minimum is very helpful- for many reasons.
