285 vs. 315

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I am running 285/75/16 right now with some rubbing up front when flexed.

Thinking about going up to 315/75/16. I know I will need to trim the fender and massage or tub the firewall.

I have a 1" body lift and back spacing on my wheels are 4.5".

Not looking to change wheels, run spacers, or go bigger with the body lift.

Auto trans 4.30 gears. Not going to regear for a year or 2 at least.

I'm really just looking for someone to talk me into or out of it.
Pros? Cons?

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If a daily driver I say don't do it. If weekend warrior go for it. I've ran 305s. Good tire. Wide like a 35 but sits 33in tall.
 
Don't do it; stick with 285/75's [emoji1360]
Mine on 315's- I think the 17x9 wheels make the tires look smaller.
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315/75 is manageable around town but miserable on the interstate. I went from 33" to 35" and then right back to 33".
 
315/75 is manageable around town but miserable on the interstate. I went from 33" to 35" and then right back to 33".


I can't disagree with this. It's all over the place on the interstate. I'm hoping with UCA's with increased caster, as well as fresh LBJ's, OTR's, LCA bushings, and an alignment it will behave better.

I don't remember the wandering on 285's, but I'm not so sure the 315's are the problem on my rig. I think the front end is all original with 247k miles. I did steering rack and FSB bushings, and those alone tightened it up a lot.
 
I can't disagree with this. It's all over the place on the interstate. I'm hoping with UCA's with increased caster, as well as fresh LBJ's, OTR's, LCA bushings, and an alignment it will behave better.

I don't remember the wandering on 285's, but I'm not so sure the 315's are the problem on my rig. I think the front end is all original with 247k miles. I did steering rack and FSB bushings, and those alone tightened it up a lot.

The 35's are not the issue. Just most likely killed those old parts faster. Wondering is caused by loose steering components. My major factor was loose ITRE's. Go OEM on everything or they will end up getting loose in no time on that tire size.
 
I can't disagree with this. It's all over the place on the interstate. I'm hoping with UCA's with increased caster, as well as fresh LBJ's, OTR's, LCA bushings, and an alignment it will behave better.

I don't remember the wandering on 285's, but I'm not so sure the 315's are the problem on my rig. I think the front end is all original with 247k miles. I did steering rack and FSB bushings, and those alone tightened it up a lot.

I was referring to the gearing issue (35s/4.30s). Mine drove fine, just became worthless on interstate speed inclines... I'd imagine your issues are just as you suspect, component related.
 
The 35's are not the issue. Just most likely killed those old parts faster. Wondering is caused by loose steering components. My major factor was loose ITRE's. Go OEM on everything or they will end up getting loose in no time on that tire size.

Yeah, I wouldn't even think about anything other than OEM for those parts.

I was referring to the gearing issue (35s/4.30s). Mine drove fine, just became worthless on interstate speed inclines... I'd imagine your issues are just as you suspect, component related.

Oh really? I've gone over Mt. Hood several times since the 35's- loaded down with 2 big dogs, wife, and gear- 70 all day no problem. Calculated 16-17mpg too. Don't get me wrong- I'd love a S/C and more power- but it isn't annoyingly doggy.
 
Yeah, I wouldn't even think about anything other than OEM for those parts.



Oh really? I've gone over Mt. Hood several times since the 35's- loaded down with 2 big dogs, wife, and gear- 70 all day no problem. Calculated 16-17mpg too. Don't get me wrong- I'd love a S/C and more power- but it isn't annoyingly doggy.

Hmm, strange because Im pretty much downshifting/upshifting constantly on mountain passes with my 33's. Gearing would help but it doesnt do much.

For the cost of gearing I would way rather have a SC under the hood, thats for sure.
 
Oh really? I've gone over Mt. Hood several times since the 35's- loaded down with 2 big dogs, wife, and gear- 70 all day no problem. Calculated 16-17mpg too. Don't get me wrong- I'd love a S/C and more power- but it isn't annoyingly doggy.

Hmm, strange because Im pretty much downshifting/upshifting constantly on mountain passes with my 33's. Gearing would help but it doesnt do much.

For the cost of gearing I would way rather have a SC under the hood, thats for sure.

My complaints are without my SC installed, for what it's worth. I pulled it to rebuild a while back and it hasn't made it's way back on the truck (and may never.)

I encounter a stretch of interstate coming back that's probably a 30-40 degree incline for a mile or more and I'd kick down to 2nd gear coming up it on the 35s, even after building up speed before hitting it. The 33s take it in 3rd with noticeably less effort needed.
 
IMHO, 35's require gears. I had 285's on 4.10's with a supercharger. Thought the SC would allow for the 35's.... Bought gears the week after tires.
 
Ive been debating the same thing. Im running 275/70/17s and feel that theyre not big enough. I know [MENTION=53337]SCRunner12[/MENTION] runs 285/85/17 on his tundra and looks good. Im also thinking of 295/70/17 or 305/60/17 as [MENTION=50342]JayRolla[/MENTION] had mentioned. I daily drive mine as much as i want 35s it would cost too much on gas.
 
As [MENTION=50342]JayRolla[/MENTION] said 305's are a great size, and an easy way to get slightly bigger tires without having to commit to full 35's. I have 305/70/16s with
stock gears and a supercharger. It could use some lower gearing, which I will get eventually, but its been running stock gears for about 4 months and it handles fine for now
 
Ive been debating the same thing. Im running 275/70/17s and feel that theyre not big enough. I know [MENTION=53337]SCRunner12[/MENTION] runs 285/85/17 on his tundra and looks good. Im also thinking of 295/70/17 or 305/60/17 as [MENTION=50342]JayRolla[/MENTION] had mentioned. I daily drive mine as much as i want 35s it would cost too much on gas.


Just to clarify I have 285/75/17's on my Tundra and might throw them on my 4runner eventually to see how much they rub.

IMO 35's aren't necessary for 75% of the guys on here. I've wheeled with guys on 35's and could do the same trails/lines. The amount of work and regear to make 35's work isn't for the typical DD/occasional wheeler. 285/75/17's are a great compromise as you can have the width of a 285, but 34" tire. Helps reduce the footprint and rolling resistance, while also gaining the height. I'll go this size with my 4runner eventually as well. Only downside is running a 17" wheel which means less sidewall.
 
Just to clarify I have 285/75/17's on my Tundra and might throw them on my 4runner eventually to see how much they rub.

IMO 35's aren't necessary for 75% of the guys on here. I've wheeled with guys on 35's and could do the same trails/lines. The amount of work and regear to make 35's work isn't for the typical DD/occasional wheeler. 285/75/17's are a great compromise as you can have the width of a 285, but 34" tire. Helps reduce the footprint and rolling resistance, while also gaining the height. I'll go this size with my 4runner eventually as well. Only downside is running a 17" wheel which means less sidewall.
You have the same sidewall with your 17s with 285/75r17 as someone has with 285/75r16. Width is the same and sidewall is the same but just the tire height is one inch taller with the 17s vs 16s

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I noticed more of a difference going from 265s to 285s then I did going from 285s to 315s. I think it's partly because when I switched to 285s I also installed a suspension lift. Also, the 4runners I've had experience with always felt heavy and slow to begin with & I run BFG 315s which are just about the smallest 315s you can get.

Since you have a lift and 285s, I'm assuming you've already accepted the fact that a lift & larger tires will increase the speed of wear and tear on parts, will typically benefit from additional parts to maximize handling & your MPGs will take a hit. As long as you are willing to do some form of modification whether it's trimming, hammering, tubbing, body lift, spacers, aftermarket UCAs or a combination, you'll be able to make 315s work. It just depends on how much effort you want to put in, your driving habits, & your daily/recreational driving conditions. BUT you'll definitely need to do something to minimize rubbing with 315s especially if you're already rubbing with 285s on your current set up.

With that out of the way, the type of adventuring I do can be achieved with a stock 4runner which means, aside from maintenance, just about everything I've done to my 4runner has been to achieve a specific "look" I wanted as long as it didn't compromise its function in a manner that would negatively impact how I use my 4runner outside of my comfort zone. I'm pretty straight up & never had to kid myself that something I was doing was for function when it was really because I just liked it.

For example & only speaking for myself, the following are a few things that come to mind that was done because I liked it & had almost nothing to do with enhancing function because like I said earlier, everything that I do can be achieved in stock 4runner:
-suspension lift (to make 285s work without hammering/cutting)
-body lift (to make 315s work without hammering/cutting)
-265s to 285s then to 315s
-satoshi grill mod
-hood w/ scoop
-paint job
 
I was so close to doing some 315/75s but read more and more and finally decided that 285s were plenty I read over and over again how 33s are more then enough and I believe it now after seeing what I can do on just 265s with a 3 inch lift
Here's the 315s mocked up
 
So I'm still undecided on this. One day I think 285s will be fine, but the next day I want to go ahead with 315s.
I feel like there are more people out there who have done it, and are happy they did so.
I will probably keep going back and forth until I get new tires in ~6 month or so.
 
I noticed more of a difference going from 265s to 285s then I did going from 285s to 315s. I think it's partly because when I switched to 285s I also installed a suspension lift. Also, the 4runners I've had experience with always felt heavy and slow to begin with & I run BFG 315s which are just about the smallest 315s you can get.

Since you have a lift and 285s, I'm assuming you've already accepted the fact that a lift & larger tires will increase the speed of wear and tear on parts, will typically benefit from additional parts to maximize handling & your MPGs will take a hit. As long as you are willing to do some form of modification whether it's trimming, hammering, tubbing, body lift, spacers, aftermarket UCAs or a combination, you'll be able to make 315s work. It just depends on how much effort you want to put in, your driving habits, & your daily/recreational driving conditions. BUT you'll definitely need to do something to minimize rubbing with 315s especially if you're already rubbing with 285s on your current set up.

With that out of the way, the type of adventuring I do can be achieved with a stock 4runner which means, aside from maintenance, just about everything I've done to my 4runner has been to achieve a specific "look" I wanted as long as it didn't compromise its function in a manner that would negatively impact how I use my 4runner outside of my comfort zone. I'm pretty straight up & never had to kid myself that something I was doing was for function when it was really because I just liked it.

For example & only speaking for myself, the following are a few things that come to mind that was done because I liked it & had almost nothing to do with enhancing function because like I said earlier, everything that I do can be achieved in stock 4runner:
-suspension lift (to make 285s work without hammering/cutting)
-body lift (to make 315s work without hammering/cutting)
-265s to 285s then to 315s
-satoshi grill mod
-hood w/ scoop
-paint job
Do u have a build thread?
 

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