4Runner and a Bug out Bag (BOB)

Pretty nice site. eberlestock.com.

This looks like a good bag I could use to add for my 2 kids who cannot carry their own stuff.

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I have their G4 Operator pack and the X4 hispeed as well for when I don't carry as much while on duty, plus a bunch of their smaller stuff. The G4 is perfect as I can carry my M4 or SOCOM 16 pretty much hidden from view and then the rest of the pack is for gear/sustainment needs. The Sled is well made also, probably pick up a battleship or destroyer next.

For MOLLE needs look into tac tailor, SORD, SO tech.
 
Bug out bag? THIS guy is doing it right:

"Beneath the 360-degree protective cage, armored sniper platform, command and communications center with full Faraday cage, and assorted storage compartments is a Chevrolet C-70, but one with an engine modified to run on a variety of fuels.

DeLozier says the truck carries enough freeze-dried food and has its own water purification, generation and desalination systems to enable his family to live for as long as two years well off the grid, producing the electricity it needs via solar and mobile generators.

(photo by Evan Sears)

Or, he says, the truck can become a barracks for a 12-person team.

For camping, the unit has air conditioning, heater, toilet, shower and 4,135-watt solar panel. There also is a fold-out tent, 360-degree thermal-regulated camouflage net system and a medical kit. The truck even carries an electric-powered ATV.

Air inside the vehicle is filtered against various contaminants, but the truck also has gas masks, chemical suits, night-vision cameras, self-contained breathing apparatus and other survival necessities. The truck, even its lights, is bulletproofed."
 

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FWIW, if you check out the survivalist / prepper boards, you'll see a strong belief that he is actually doing it wrong. When SHTF, the last thing you want to do is draw attention to yourself. You want to blend and disappear, not make yourself a target.

Regardless, that is a sweet setup. :sniper:
 
FWIW, if you check out the survivalist / prepper boards, you'll see a strong belief that he is actually doing it wrong. When SHTF, the last thing you want to do is draw attention to yourself. You want to blend and disappear, not make yourself a target.

Regardless, that is a sweet setup. :sniper:

Where I live you could make that truck disappear quite easily. Old barn, down a holler, on a mountain ridge or any other place. If I had to choose between a backpack or this truck the truck wins every time.
 
Bug out bag? THIS guy is doing it right:

"Beneath the 360-degree protective cage, armored sniper platform, command and communications center with full Faraday cage, and assorted storage compartments is a Chevrolet C-70, but one with an engine modified to run on a variety of fuels.

DeLozier says the truck carries enough freeze-dried food and has its own water purification, generation and desalination systems to enable his family to live for as long as two years well off the grid, producing the electricity it needs via solar and mobile generators.

(photo by Evan Sears)

Or, he says, the truck can become a barracks for a 12-person team.

For camping, the unit has air conditioning, heater, toilet, shower and 4,135-watt solar panel. There also is a fold-out tent, 360-degree thermal-regulated camouflage net system and a medical kit. The truck even carries an electric-powered ATV.

Air inside the vehicle is filtered against various contaminants, but the truck also has gas masks, chemical suits, night-vision cameras, self-contained breathing apparatus and other survival necessities. The truck, even its lights, is bulletproofed."

LOL, that thing is crazy! I wonder how much it costs. I'd almost rather have a white cargo van with a roofrack and some ladders on top. Blends a bit better. Says "Hey, I'm just an unemployed painter looking to get out of town, same as you. No guns in here, just some old paintbrushes and worn-out overalls." That is, if I wasn't taking my 4runner:biggrin2:
 
Where I live you could make that truck disappear quite easily. Old barn, down a holler, on a mountain ridge or any other place. If I had to choose between a backpack or this truck the truck wins every time.

What this illustrates is that you need to keep a couple things in mind for your SHTF planning.
1) PLAN
2) Understand the location you are in and will be bugging in or bugging out from.
3) Understand the location you are bugging out to.

What works well in one location does not necessarily work well in another location.

Another item that rarely comes up with BOB discussions here is do not broadcast your preparedness. You can plan for yourself but not support your neighborhood. If it is well know you are prepared you will become a target (as mentioned before) and you will need to make some very hard decisions at that point. In ANY emergency situation you can only provide so much help before you are putting yourself at risk and making the situation worse over all.

Okki
 
What this illustrates is that you need to keep a couple things in mind for your SHTF planning.
1) PLAN
2) Understand the location you are in and will be bugging in or bugging out from.
3) Understand the location you are bugging out to.

What works well in one location does not necessarily work well in another location.

Another item that rarely comes up with BOB discussions here is do not broadcast your preparedness. You can plan for yourself but not support your neighborhood. If it is well know you are prepared you will become a target (as mentioned before) and you will need to make some very hard decisions at that point. In ANY emergency situation you can only provide so much help before you are putting yourself at risk and making the situation worse over all.

Okki

I totally understand. I live in a location that is quite possibly a place that many others will make their bug out destination. My point in the above post is that that truck is set up to last for YEARS and is not for run of the mill disasters like an earthquake or hurricane but more for...bigger and longer term whole earth effects. If something like that were to happen the truck (price is 600K) is a better alternative than a backpack. I can afford a backpack. That truck is out of my price range lol.
 
I totally understand. I live in a location that is quite possibly a place that many others will make their bug out destination. My point in the above post is that that truck is set up to last for YEARS and is not for run of the mill disasters like an earthquake or hurricane but more for...bigger and longer term whole earth effects. If something like that were to happen the truck (price is 600K) is a better alternative than a backpack. I can afford a backpack. That truck is out of my price range lol.

The duration planning should be part of your planning in that most people do not realistically plan for "years". Should a multi month event occur, the whole situation changes and your needs will change with the societal situation.

Societal norms and needs will change and human behavior with it. depending on outside assistance, travel will become hard, fuel will be scarce at best and city populations will be the first to turn barbaric (no food in "stores" or on shelves). The human psyche will become the most interesting factor in your survival. With all your planning I would expect a lot of people to keep a bullet in reserve for everyone in their group; because PLENTY of people will give up eventually.

I would fully expect that regardless of the $600K truck those individuals also reach that point as well depending on their specific situation. Not everyone can live of the land or deal with the need to protect ones livelihood.

All that said; at that point you are well beyond any SHTF planning simply because most people cannot realistically plan for that (logistics and cost). I do believe that everyone should be "2 weeks" prepared to deal with more likely natural disasters that have an expected assistance/relieve component.

Okki
 
IMHO this truck is overkill. If a real big disaster happens you might as well equip your garage with bulletproof walls, air filtration and 2 years of supplies. Roads will be jammed anyway and this truck won't get far and will be surrounded by not prepared people.

For long term disasters I would rather invest that money in chunk of land up north and a bunker with supplies. Couple of days survival in the city and then off you go to your hiding place. If I had the money of course and if I was concerned about that sort of thigns anyway.
 
Societal norms and needs will change and human behavior with it. depending on outside assistance, travel will become hard, fuel will be scarce at best and city populations will be the first to turn barbaric (no food in "stores" or on shelves). The human psyche will become the most interesting factor in your survival.

This is precisely the X-factor that not many people take into account. It might sound cheesy, but I think the most interesting aspect of AMC's show "The Walking Dead" (other than the gratuitous violence and zombies ;):) is how groups of otherwise "normal" people would handle a long-term, catastrophic event to humanity. Your neighbor might be your drinking buddy one day and your sworn enemy the next. Unfortunately, disasters bring the best AND worst out of people.

All that said; at that point you are well beyond any SHTF planning simply because most people cannot realistically plan for that (logistics and cost). I do believe that everyone should be "2 weeks" prepared to deal with more likely natural disasters that have an expected assistance/relieve component.

This is exactly my stance on emergency preparedness. I am not going to move my wife and I to a rural part of the country and spend every penny to our name on "preps" in hopes of being ready for some kind of doomsday event that likely will never come in our lifetimes. However, I do have 2 weeks worth of food, water, and many supplies to last us through a short term disaster. I consider ourselves at least or more prepared than about 80% to 90% of the sheeple.

While I'm on the topic, I think that just about every household in America should own a WaterBOB or similar product. I am in no way affiliated with WaterBOB, but I think it's a great idea and should be as important to have in your home as a flashlight and candles.

WaterBOB®: emergency drinking water storage
 
This is precisely the X-factor that not many people take into account. It might sound cheesy, but I think the most interesting aspect of AMC's show "The Walking Dead" (other than the gratuitous violence and zombies ;):) is how groups of otherwise "normal" people would handle a long-term, catastrophic event to humanity. Your neighbor might be your drinking buddy one day and your sworn enemy the next. Unfortunately, disasters bring the best AND worst out of people.

I completely agree.

While I'm on the topic, I think that just about every household in America should own a WaterBOB or similar product. I am in no way affiliated with WaterBOB, but I think it's a great idea and should be as important to have in your home as a flashlight and candles.

WaterBOB®: emergency drinking water storage

THAT, is awesome. I'll be adding that to my family site for family and workmates to check out. Nice find. :)
 
This is exactly my stance on emergency preparedness. I am not going to move my wife and I to a rural part of the country and spend every penny to our name on "preps" in hopes of being ready for some kind of doomsday event that likely will never come in our lifetimes. However, I do have 2 weeks worth of food, water, and many supplies to last us through a short term disaster. I consider ourselves at least or more prepared than about 80% to 90% of the sheeple.

I agree 100% and I'm of the same mind set, plus I just wanted to quote sheeple, love it...
 
LOL, that thing is crazy! I wonder how much it costs. I'd almost rather have a white cargo van with a roofrack and some ladders on top. Blends a bit better. Says "Hey, I'm just an unemployed painter looking to get out of town, same as you. No guns in here, just some old paintbrushes and worn-out overalls." That is, if I wasn't taking my 4runner:biggrin2:

If you're interested in a white cargo van you should check the guys at u-joint offroad out. 4x4 Van Conversion kits I got to see some of their work at the Overland Rally and it was pretty sweet. One of the vans they had there was just about self sufficient. I had a 4x4 Conversion, Baja full length rack, insulated panels, 7.3 Ford diesel, on-board air, bed, enough food for an extended period of time, etc... pretty sweet stuff.
 

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