4Runner Gas Mileage 36 MPG

michael33r

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Alright so I've been tracking my mpg for a few months in my manual 97 4Runner. I typically get around 18 average in city and 19 to 20 highway. However, one time I tested it on a stretch of highway and got 27 mpg. A while later after I had done some maintenance like sea foam and other things, I drove the same stretch and got 36 mpg. I filled up at one station and drove 15 miles to another one and filled up and divided my miles. I use an app to automatically calculate and keep my logs but I also double checked it. Now 36 seems very impossible to me. What variable could be affecting my results?
 
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Alright so I've been tracking my mpg for a few months in my manual 97 4Runner. I typically get around 18 average in city and 19 to 20 highway. However, one time I tested it on a stretch of highway and got 27 mpg. A while later after I had done some maintenance like sea foam and other things, I drove the same stretch and got 36 mpg. I filled up at one station and drove 15 miles to another one and filled up and divided my miles. I use an app to automatically calculate and keep my logs but I also double checked it. Now 36 seems very impossible to me. What variable could be affecting my results?

15 miles is not a valid test.

Even 27 is borderline impossible. Either you aren't going as far as you think, or you aren't filling the tank. Are your tires undersized? This would throw everything off.
 
What variable is affecting you resuts? MATH. Don't feel bad though, my MPG's went WAY down once I started using MATH to calculate my MPG's.

Figure out how to use this variable and you'll find your results are more accurate.

Anything over 20 in stock form is suspect.
 
15 miles is not a valid test.

Even 27 is borderline impossible. Either you aren't going as far as you think, or you aren't filling the tank. Are your tires undersized? This would throw everything off.

I tested my odometer and it's accurate. I have Goodyear wranglers the original size. I know I've heard of people getting around 25 mpg before.I just don't know what's causing the errancy.
 
What variable is affecting you resuts? MATH. Don't feel bad though, my MPG's went WAY down once I started using MATH to calculate my MPG's.

Figure out how to use this variable and you'll find your results are more accurate.

Anything over 20 in stock form is suspect.
The app does the math for me. I know how to do the math. You divide 15 miles by .411 gallons of gas used and you get 36.49 miles per gallon.
 
Fill you tank up, reset trip odometer, drive to almost empty, fill up, and then calculate your MPG.

4 cylinder or v6?
 
15 miles is not enough to be accurate, drive the same stretch of road a couple times like 60 mines and fill up at the SAME PUMP.
 
How did you find out exactly how much gas you used? You filled up, ran for 15 miles then filled again and did the math?

Like stated you need to run at least half tank on highway, get exact gas used by filling back up and try that math again with your app. Bet its not getting 36mpg.
 
You're basing it off of 0.4 gals? :rofl: When I coast down a hill, the instantaneous MPG on my CX-9 says 99 mpg...I guess I'll go off that.

You really want accuracy, fill up your tank entirely using the auto shut off. Drive until you're on E meanwhile using your phone GPS to calculated your entire distance traveled. Go the EXACT same pump at the gas station you fill up at first and fill it full to the auto stop.
 
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We had a member that claimed fantastic MPG. It turned out he would only count a certain number of gallons per fill-up, and then ignore the rest..

Using his method, I'm getting 50+ MPG. I spend my days driving around looking down on those smug, gas-guzzling Prius drivers..


















:D
 
the post is the definition of insanity

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
 
When you calculate MPG, you're simply dividing Miles driven Per Gallons of gas used. In this simple formula, your gallons is the denominator (bottom of the fraction for those who may have forgotten). Having a larger denominator means each fractional part becomes smaller and smaller.

It all comes down to math and really statistics. The smaller the fractional parts, the less inherent sampling/testing error there is in the calculation. This is to say that the natural sampling and testing error (which can be quite large in MPG calculations), gets broken up more and more as the fractional size gets smaller. For example, you're calculated 36 MPG could be a valid average, but your error may be +/- 20 MPG (I'm just guessing here) since you didn't even use a gallon of gas. Had you had the ability to reduce your units of measure, say meters/milliliter, your short trip would be much more valid (though still likely too small of a sample size to get a statistically accurate result).

I bet if I wanted to, I could "fill up" my T4R, drive 15 miles, refill the tank and be near 0.00 MPG because I "topped off" the tank by having the nozzle click off a few times during refilling.

To get a realistic measurement, fill up until the pump clicks off (no topping off) at the slowest pump speed. Drive at least 3/4 of the tank of gas and refill. Divide the number of miles driven since the last fill up (Trip Odometers work nicely for this) and divide by number of gallons it takes to refill until the pump clicks off in the same manner. This will give you an value with less error than your 36 MPG measurement.

Do this a few times and average the average and you'll likely get a very realistic real-world measurement for expected MPG's.
 
...I filled up at one station and drove 15 miles to another one and filled up and divided my miles...What variable could be affecting my results?

With the info you've provided, the variable that comes to mind is you filled up 15 miles apart. How do we know both locations are exactly the same in slab being level, equipment, altitudes & your pumping actions? Why not get your avg. mpgs over a full tank of fuel?
 
When you calculate MPG, you're simply dividing Miles driven Per Gallons of gas used. In this simple formula, your gallons is the denominator (bottom of the fraction for those who may have forgotten). Having a larger denominator means each fractional part becomes smaller and smaller.

It all comes down to math and really statistics. The smaller the fractional parts, the less inherent sampling/testing error there is in the calculation. This is to say that the natural sampling and testing error (which can be quite large in MPG calculations), gets broken up more and more as the fractional size gets smaller. For example, you're calculated 36 MPG could be a valid average, but your error may be +/- 20 MPG (I'm just guessing here) since you didn't even use a gallon of gas. Had you had the ability to reduce your units of measure, say meters/milliliter, your short trip would be much more valid (though still likely too small of a sample size to get a statistically accurate result).

I bet if I wanted to, I could "fill up" my T4R, drive 15 miles, refill the tank and be near 0.00 MPG because I "topped off" the tank by having the nozzle click off a few times during refilling.

To get a realistic measurement, fill up until the pump clicks off (no topping off) at the slowest pump speed. Drive at least 3/4 of the tank of gas and refill. Divide the number of miles driven since the last fill up (Trip Odometers work nicely for this) and divide by number of gallons it takes to refill until the pump clicks off in the same manner. This will give you an value with less error than your 36 MPG measurement.

Do this a few times and average the average and you'll likely get a very realistic real-world measurement for expected MPG's.
Alright I'll try this. I still don't get why it matters if I go from 3/4 of a tank to full or 1/4 tank to full. When the epa tests it they go from a dry tank and put one gallon of gas in it and drive till it dies.
 
How did you find out exactly how much gas you used? You filled up, ran for 15 miles then filled again and did the math?

Like stated you need to run at least half tank on highway, get exact gas used by filling back up and try that math again with your app. Bet its not getting 36mpg.
Yeah I obviously don't believe that it's getting 36 mpg.
 

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