4th Gen Suspension Options/FAQ

[4thGen4Life]

Just deleted my X-REAS for Fox 2.0 with Old Man Emu rear Coils.

Wow... Just wow. Love it!

 

[gloch]

Just deleted my X-REAS for Fox 2.0 with Old Man Emu rear Coils.

Wow... Just wow. Love it!

What rear shocks did you use? The stocks won't work without X-REAS correct?

 

[IanUSN]

First, I apologize if this has already been covered, but 108 pages is a lot to go through.

I have a 2005 4Runner Sport V8 (4wd). The factory XREAS is completely worn out at this point and I'm researching options. So far, I'm fairly sold on the Bilstein 5100 and OME LD springs (2884/2895E). I want to keep the lift around 2" or less, just enough to clear 265/70/17 tires. How have those that have installed this combo liked it? Second, are aftermarket upper control arms really necessary in this instance? I don't do any offroading but do intend to tow once in a while.

 

[Bluesky 07]

Couple of notes - I recently finished my transition to all Eibach shocks and springs and couldn't be happier. Ride and handling are great and their customer service is outstanding. Highly recommend their gear.

Also, anyone who needs a 1/4" spacer to correct the "driver's side lean" and wants one essentially free, please look here. (Note - this spacer gives 1/2" lift due to suspension geometry.) It's new other than being installed for a couple of hours until I decided not to use it. Never left the garage with it installed.

 

[billbuckets]

So I'm set on getting a Dobinsons IMS setup with JBA HD high caster UCAs that I already got for a steal. My original LCAs are shot, and I'm trying to decide what to go with for a new set of LCAs without spending a fortune. It seems people like the SuperPro offset arms for the money. I just have no idea if I should go with LCAs with MORE built in caster or if I should stick with something stock geometry on the bottom on the chance I'll get enough with just the JBA UCAs. Planning to lift 2.5". Anyone have suggestions?

TIA!

 

[Ejacksoninaction]

Anyone have leads on where to look for a lift kit in Canada (Squamish, BC)? Or help me confirm that I'm getting the right parts if I put together a lift myself

Looking to do a 2-2.5" front/1.5-2" rear lift with bilstein 5100's; or the most I can get away with without new control arms/dropping the diff. We have a 2003 v8. I'm confident I can install a lift on the car if I have all the correct components, just having trouble piecing together the parts I'll need as I'm not (yet) a car guy and don't know what I'm looking for.

If I get this set, do I also need new coils or can I use the stock ones? If I can do either, is it worth getting new coils at the same time, and which ones should I be getting? I have a coil compressor tool I can borrow.

Thanks so much in advance. Stoked to be part of the community - Erik

 

[Bluesky 07]

Anyone have leads on where to look for a lift kit in Canada (Squamish, BC)? Or help me confirm that I'm getting the right parts if I put together a lift myself

Looking to do a 2-2.5" front/1.5-2" rear lift with bilstein 5100's; or the most I can get away with without new control arms/dropping the diff. We have a 2003 v8. I'm confident I can install a lift on the car if I have all the correct components, just having trouble piecing together the parts I'll need as I'm not (yet) a car guy and don't know what I'm looking for.

If I get this set, do I also need new coils or can I use the stock ones? If I can do either, is it worth getting new coils at the same time, and which ones should I be getting? I have a coil compressor tool I can borrow.

Thanks so much in advance. Stoked to be part of the community - Erik

My 2 cents fwiw. Springs are relatively inexpensive. Yours have been carrying a ~2000 KG SUV around for 20 years and likely what, at least 240,000 KM? Also, when I was making these decisions, I knew if I used my stock coils that I would always wonder how much better the ride and handling would have been with new coils. You can read my whole suspension saga via the link in my sig if you wish. I now have a full Eibach setup and it’s terrific, as is their customer service. Happy to answer any questions you have as best I can.

 

[Ejacksoninaction]

My 2 cents fwiw. Springs are relatively inexpensive. Yours have been carrying a ~2000 KG SUV around for 20 years and likely what, at least 240,000 KM? Also, when I was making these decisions, I knew if I used my stock coils that I would always wonder how much better the ride and handling would have been with new coils. You can read my whole suspension saga via the link in my sig if you wish. I now have a full Eibach setup and it’s terrific, as is their customer service. Happy to answer any questions you have as best I can.

Yeah I was looking back through this thread and read your previous comments, they are very helpful and I have to agree. Only 170xxxkm though !

Do you have any recommendations for coils that will pair well with 5100's?

 

[Bluesky 07]

Yeah I was looking back through this thread and read your previous comments, they are very helpful and I have to agree. Only 170xxxkm though !

Do you have any recommendations for coils that will pair well with 5100's?

Thanks, I appreciate your kind words. I have no direct experience with the 5100 though I did have the Bilstein TRD Offroad shocks from a 2020 Tacoma on the front of my truck. They're similar to the 4600, which is similar to the 5100. (Others may chime in detailing the exact differences, and that's fine; it's why I said "similar.") So my front coils were the ones Toyota paired with those TRD Offroad shocks. Coincidentally, I just took them off as I went with Eibach all around, so here's what they look like.

From what I recall of the discussion through the years, FJ springs are a popular spring with 5100s. Hopefully others with that setup will comment.

 

[Ejacksoninaction]

Thinking of going with this 2" OME kit.

To me it looks like it fits the bill for
1) Full kit, it has everything I need
2) 2" is low enough to not need diff drop, uca's, etc.
3) 2" may also be low enough to add another .5" in the front with spacers and still avoid the above? Likely won't care about the rake but just thinking ahead.

Any comments before I pull the trigger?

 

[frontosa72]

Thanks, I appreciate your kind words. I have no direct experience with the 5100 though I did have the Bilstein TRD Offroad shocks from a 2020 Tacoma on the front of my truck. They're similar to the 4600, which is similar to the 5100. (Others may chime in detailing the exact differences, and that's fine; it's why I said "similar.") So my front coils were the ones Toyota paired with those TRD Offroad shocks. Coincidentally, I just took them off as I went with Eibach all around, so here's what they look like.

if i use TRD Offroad shocks and springs from a 2000 Tacoma on the front from my 2006 4runner v6 2wd, what should i use for the rear?

 

[Bluesky 07]

Thanks, I appreciate your kind words. I have no direct experience with the 5100 though I did have the Bilstein TRD Offroad shocks from a 2020 Tacoma on the front of my truck. They're similar to the 4600, which is similar to the 5100. (Others may chime in detailing the exact differences, and that's fine; it's why I said "similar.") So my front coils were the ones Toyota paired with those TRD Offroad shocks. Coincidentally, I just took them off as I went with Eibach all around, so here's what they look like.

if i use TRD Offroad shocks and springs from a 2000 Tacoma on the front from my 2006 4runner v6 2wd, what should i use for the rear?

My recommendation is the 4Runner specific Bilstein 4600 shock (p/n 24-186049 but double-check to be sure that fits your truck). For springs, you can re-use your stock springs or look for some FJ springs.

You can also use the rear shocks off a Tacoma, you just have to replace the bushings. I ran those with no problem but eventually switched them out for the 4600s mentioned above b/c they're a lot beefier than the Tacoma shock. That makes sense since the bed on a pickup truck makes the rear end lighter than that of an SUV. There's lots of info on this in the post linked in my sig.

 

[WTS]

Yeah I was looking back through this thread and read your previous comments, they are very helpful and I have to agree. Only 170xxxkm though !

Do you have any recommendations for coils that will pair well with 5100's?

Wow only 170k kms, nice I though my 03 V8 LTD with 208k was doing good. I put 5100s all around on mine and they are doing good, not quite the cornering on curvy roads ability of the Xreas, but still good. Sorry can't help you with the other parts as my is pretty much stock with rear airbags. Looking to upgrade to a GX460. Good luck with your mods.

 

[Toyota4life2243]

Need some advice here. I have a 2003 toyota 4Runner sports edition and decided I wanted to level it out. I got a rough country 3/2 kit made for the xreas system. Well me and a buddy really messed it up and before doing research on it, disconnected both driver and passenger side hydraulic lines. My xreas system is completely done for. I believe my best option now is to delete the xreas so, the question is, will the leveling kit I got work for other shocks? I really don’t want to have to trash the brand new kit if I don’t have too.


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[Bluesky 07]

Need some advice here. I have a 2003 toyota 4Runner sports edition and decided I wanted to level it out. I got a rough country 3/2 kit made for the xreas system. Well me and a buddy really messed it up and before doing research on it, disconnected both driver and passenger side hydraulic lines. My xreas system is completely done for. I believe my best option now is to delete the xreas so, the question is, will the leveling kit I got work for other shocks? I really don’t want to have to trash the brand new kit if I don’t have too.


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Don't know the answer but if you're removing X-REAS, these docs from the service manual, kindly hosted by [MENTION=279296]jcaino[/MENTION], will be helpful.

 

[AuSeeker]

Need some advice here. I have a 2003 toyota 4Runner sports edition and decided I wanted to level it out. I got a rough country 3/2 kit made for the xreas system. Well me and a buddy really messed it up and before doing research on it, disconnected both driver and passenger side hydraulic lines. My xreas system is completely done for. I believe my best option now is to delete the xreas so, the question is, will the leveling kit I got work for other shocks? I really don’t want to have to trash the brand new kit if I don’t have too.


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I would suggest contacting the manufacturer of the leveling kit and see what they say.

 

[twuje]

Need help getting started with lift/build

I just recently purchased a 2005 v8 and want to lift and put wheels/tires on.
I'd like to at some point run 35s, but for now 33s are the easiest option. I saw a video of some guy fitting 285 Nitto Grapplers on stock 4runner with no rubbing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2KUxdBwJow

I'd like to go with the same tire, and was hoping to avoid trimming. Is this possible? I am also planning on getting -12mm offset wheels, a 2.5" lift/level, and SPC UCAs. What is the best bang for buck suspension setup to reduce rake and lift rear by 2.5"? I have a hard time finding shocks and struts that hike the rear up 2.5". It seems like the options are either 2" or 3". Does the OME 2.5" lift kit raise the front and rear both by 2.5"; and not fix any rake?

Thanks

 

[Kneelb4Mee]

Would I have any issues using these TRD Off Road Tacoma on my 07 V6 4Runner? Would I get any lift?

 

[Bluesky 07]

Would I have any issues using these TRD Off Road Tacoma on my 07 V6 4Runner? Would I get any lift?

What year is the Tacoma? Also, see the suspension post linked in my sig. I used a similar set up before eventually switching to Eibach. I got 1.5 to 2 inches in the front so it basically leveled my truck. There’s a picture in that post after I put on the TRD Off-Road Tacoma gear.

 

[Kneelb4Mee]

what year is the tacoma? Also, see the suspension post linked in my sig. I used a similar set up before eventually switching to eibach. I got 1.5 to 2 inches in the front so it basically leveled my truck. There’s a picture in that post after i put on the trd off-road tacoma gear.

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