sandcrawler
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i think he's saying that the "fix" is to use BT streaming? yeah, that's not a fix in my book, either. "doc, my arm hurts when i go like this." doc: "don't go like that."
5th Gen Official Complaint Thread to Toyota and Some Solutions
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sandcrawler
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hear, hear! this is a great idea for a thread, Gary. thanks for establishing a single, easily referenced place to codify the complaints/problems most common to the 5th Gen 4Runner.
my issues mirror same here:
- lumbar crunch and seat creak
- overly aggressive VSC/TRAC
- headlight fogging
- windshield ticks and creaks in cold weather
- sunroof rattles intermittently, esp. when tilted up
- unusable iPod navigation via USB input
none of these issues are major, and could all be fixed with a TSB. here's to informing Toyota of these issues so they'll know to fix them.
:cheers:
my issues mirror same here:
- lumbar crunch and seat creak
- overly aggressive VSC/TRAC
- headlight fogging
- windshield ticks and creaks in cold weather
- sunroof rattles intermittently, esp. when tilted up
- unusable iPod navigation via USB input
none of these issues are major, and could all be fixed with a TSB. here's to informing Toyota of these issues so they'll know to fix them.
:cheers:
emsmatt
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i think he's saying that the "fix" is to use BT streaming? yeah, that's not a fix in my book, either. "doc, my arm hurts when i go like this." doc: "don't go like that."
I thought about that later and believe you are probably correct. Crazy me, I paid for it, might as well have it work.
Love my truck, but here are the nits (mostly things that I miss from my old 4th gen):
-Put the assist handle back on the A pillar, driver side (love the one over the window, tho)
-Put back the locking gas cap door
-Shakey hood
-Bulging tail lights (I always liked the way the tail lights on the 4th gen (and earlier) conformed to the body). If Toyota changes them on a refresh, I would definitely buy them.
-Make seat heaters available on the TE.
-Put the rear wiper back under the window so that the roof spoiler can have a gap to clear the rear window as I'm driving (like the 4th gen did).
-Tinny sounding front doors.
-Please make seat/mirror memory available.
-Make electric passenger seat as adjustable as the driver's seat.
-Front cupholders on the 4th gen were the best I've had. Put both of them back in the front of the console, and bring back the cool cup-size adjustment.
-My 4th gen LE also had a great fold-out shelf on the front of the center armrest that came in handy.
-Give the TE a built-in holder for sunglasses.
Great thread idea (especially if Toyota pays attention). Thanks!
-Put the assist handle back on the A pillar, driver side (love the one over the window, tho)
-Put back the locking gas cap door
-Shakey hood
-Bulging tail lights (I always liked the way the tail lights on the 4th gen (and earlier) conformed to the body). If Toyota changes them on a refresh, I would definitely buy them.
-Make seat heaters available on the TE.
-Put the rear wiper back under the window so that the roof spoiler can have a gap to clear the rear window as I'm driving (like the 4th gen did).
-Tinny sounding front doors.
-Please make seat/mirror memory available.
-Make electric passenger seat as adjustable as the driver's seat.
-Front cupholders on the 4th gen were the best I've had. Put both of them back in the front of the console, and bring back the cool cup-size adjustment.
-My 4th gen LE also had a great fold-out shelf on the front of the center armrest that came in handy.
-Give the TE a built-in holder for sunglasses.
Great thread idea (especially if Toyota pays attention). Thanks!
My Problems.
1. dead pedal squeaks if you rest your foot on it under 45F
2. alignment is way off cupping tires at 5k
3. driver seat wearing quickly
4. sometimes sounds as if entire front suspension is loose when turning over bumps while accelerating
5. hood shakes like crazy at 45mph+ (i know thin metal issue)
6. Wind Noise over 65mph+
7. Random down shifts or incorrect gear selection when under light acceleration
Truck is going to Toyota this week.
My wants.
1. stiffer steering at least at slower speeds
2. power rear tailgate (my wife is 4'11 and has to jump to close it)
3. better tires (from the factory)
4. less nose dive under braking
5. iPod interface and Bluetooth is so slow sometimes
6. Nav slow when entering in address (my wife's old 08 Prius was faster)
7. Factory HIDS (have added DDM kit to mine)
8. More power
Thats my issues. Will update after truck goes in for service this week
1. dead pedal squeaks if you rest your foot on it under 45F
2. alignment is way off cupping tires at 5k
3. driver seat wearing quickly
4. sometimes sounds as if entire front suspension is loose when turning over bumps while accelerating
5. hood shakes like crazy at 45mph+ (i know thin metal issue)
6. Wind Noise over 65mph+
7. Random down shifts or incorrect gear selection when under light acceleration
Truck is going to Toyota this week.
My wants.
1. stiffer steering at least at slower speeds
2. power rear tailgate (my wife is 4'11 and has to jump to close it)
3. better tires (from the factory)
4. less nose dive under braking
5. iPod interface and Bluetooth is so slow sometimes
6. Nav slow when entering in address (my wife's old 08 Prius was faster)
7. Factory HIDS (have added DDM kit to mine)
8. More power
Thats my issues. Will update after truck goes in for service this week
Theslammer21
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I'm at 0.0 camber 1.3 caster and .02 in on the toe to help the wonder.
Theslammer21
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Too much travel until brake pedal engages. Adjusted push rod with volt meter on master cylinder pressure sensor. Adjusted all the way until I saw a change in pressure and turn back one full turn. Also hear that squishy sound from air escaping from the dust boot to the actuator/ master cylinder a lot less
I don't recall if it was a reflash or a head unit replacement, but the TSB showed up back in late summer or early fall.
i think he's saying that the "fix" is to use BT streaming? yeah, that's not a fix in my book, either. "doc, my arm hurts when i go like this." doc: "don't go like that."
No, lol. But if you can use bluetooth, it is a far better experience than plugging in. You can use the excellent iphone/ipod touch interface to find a specific song and use the steering wheel controls to change tracks when shuffling.
Has someone done a write up this? Safety issues? I hate the brakes too, it definitely makes me think there's air in the lines and need to be bled. But from the threads I've read, it's completely normal.
-JD-
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My biggest complaints have to do with packaging options.
Why no dual/auto climate control option on the TE??
No Nav option on the TE (canada)?
Why not leather/heated seats option on the TE?
Inversely, why no Locking diff option for the LE?
I dont like that Toyota has forced us to choose between going off-road and being comfortable...
Minor complaints;
-Non illuminated moonroof/mirror controls. (Why illuminate every button but these ones?)
-Terrible iPod interface on HU (as everyone has mentioned)
-The display on the HU scratches much too easily (dont even look at it wrong or it will scratch)
-Soft plastics everywhere (the center console is scratched up where the seat belt buckle is from people hitting it with their belt buckles, the rear plastic bumper scratches, upper dashboard scratches, B pillar scratches from seatbelts, console scratches from cups and other items placed on top of it, radio display, basically the entire rear cargo area, etc)
-Carpet seems excessively cheap and worn after less than a year
Why no dual/auto climate control option on the TE??
No Nav option on the TE (canada)?
Why not leather/heated seats option on the TE?
Inversely, why no Locking diff option for the LE?
I dont like that Toyota has forced us to choose between going off-road and being comfortable...
Minor complaints;
-Non illuminated moonroof/mirror controls. (Why illuminate every button but these ones?)
-Terrible iPod interface on HU (as everyone has mentioned)
-The display on the HU scratches much too easily (dont even look at it wrong or it will scratch)
-Soft plastics everywhere (the center console is scratched up where the seat belt buckle is from people hitting it with their belt buckles, the rear plastic bumper scratches, upper dashboard scratches, B pillar scratches from seatbelts, console scratches from cups and other items placed on top of it, radio display, basically the entire rear cargo area, etc)
-Carpet seems excessively cheap and worn after less than a year
sandcrawler
Senior Member
you're kidding me?! there was a TSB for the Nav and it actually improved your USB iPod usability? tell more... gimme, gimme!!
Owner of a 2011 Salsa Red TE here. I DESPISE the location of the brake light connector. It is so far back that every time I hook up to a trailer I either have to remember to bring my extender with me (which is normally hooked to my boat) or drive without the lights hooked up. It is just so far back that most trailers I've hooked up to just do not have long enough brake light cables.
emsmatt
New member
you're kidding me?! there was a TSB for the Nav and it actually improved your USB iPod usability? tell more... gimme, gimme!!
+1. Pretty Please?
TreeFarmer
New member
Allow the seat to go lower to the floor. I'm only 6'2, I shouldn't be hitting my head
SOcalTRAIL
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- Squeaks, rattles, creaks, ticks, noises, noises, noises. It drove me to insanity, now I pretend the chorus of unwanted noises as I drive home are actually my favorite band..... ya..... seriously it is bad.
- Throttle response it horrible. I get in my girlfriends 3rd gen with the old v6 and it is so much nicer to drive around town in stop and go traffic.
- The most "tinny" sounding doors and body sheet metal I have ever experienced on a vehicle. My solution, I spent a few hundred dollars and a weekend and plastered the inside of the door skins with a double layer of "rattle trap extreme" sound deadener.... it helps.
- Lackluster iPod interface, very annoying. For $hits sake, its 2012.... everyone and their mom uses a friggen iPod. Figure it out Toyota, a nice iPod interface isn't rocket science and your customers would GREATLY appreciate it.
- HID headlights.... again.... its 2012.... time to make the switch form halogen to xenon.... I expect things like this when I spend $40k on a vehicle.
- Memory seats..... really Toyota..... you couldn't add this simple little feature.... You spend the time to install a "PARTY MODE" button but not a memory button for my damn driver's seat.... wow...
- Extremely tired of all of the nanny features.... my passenger cannot safely input a destination into my navigation while I drive... WTF?!?!?!!?
TOYOTA.... HIRE ME AND I WILL TELL YOU THE SECRET TO MAKING THE PERFECT VEHICLE.... HINT>>> LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS!
- Throttle response it horrible. I get in my girlfriends 3rd gen with the old v6 and it is so much nicer to drive around town in stop and go traffic.
- The most "tinny" sounding doors and body sheet metal I have ever experienced on a vehicle. My solution, I spent a few hundred dollars and a weekend and plastered the inside of the door skins with a double layer of "rattle trap extreme" sound deadener.... it helps.
- Lackluster iPod interface, very annoying. For $hits sake, its 2012.... everyone and their mom uses a friggen iPod. Figure it out Toyota, a nice iPod interface isn't rocket science and your customers would GREATLY appreciate it.
- HID headlights.... again.... its 2012.... time to make the switch form halogen to xenon.... I expect things like this when I spend $40k on a vehicle.
- Memory seats..... really Toyota..... you couldn't add this simple little feature.... You spend the time to install a "PARTY MODE" button but not a memory button for my damn driver's seat.... wow...
- Extremely tired of all of the nanny features.... my passenger cannot safely input a destination into my navigation while I drive... WTF?!?!?!!?
TOYOTA.... HIRE ME AND I WILL TELL YOU THE SECRET TO MAKING THE PERFECT VEHICLE.... HINT>>> LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS!
In case you have not seen these threads, you are not alone! And, the Issue can be solved......Be safe.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/90993-i-relocated-plugs-trailer-lights-thank-god.html
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philsey
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To be effective, it has to able to be weighted (data, for 1E), and a POLL would do that, but POLLs are limited to 10 items.
Getting the Forum to agree on which 10 would be a task in itself. Perhaps 2 polls, eg "top 10", "next 10" ...... IDK, but it's an interesting topic.
Smart people, weigh in.....
Getting the Forum to agree on which 10 would be a task in itself. Perhaps 2 polls, eg "top 10", "next 10" ...... IDK, but it's an interesting topic.
Smart people, weigh in.....
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