5th Gen Official Complaint Thread to Toyota and Some Solutions
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Dongbeiren
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This is a great thread, I just got mine 5th gen LE last month and although I love it, I still think some designs can use some improvements.
Here's my list:
1. 0 to 30 mph acceleration is too slow in everyday driving (first quarter of the throttle does almost nothing, need to hit it at least half way to get he truck moving), I know it's a heavy truck but it also has a 4L V6, it should do better.
2. Cruise control could be better.
3. 'S' mode is kinda stupid, but seems like all Toyota and Lexus are like this.
4. Would be nice to have heated steering wheel.
5. No LED or HID lights (not even options) for a 2012 vehicle.
Still a great truck, love it more the more I drive it!
Here's my list:
1. 0 to 30 mph acceleration is too slow in everyday driving (first quarter of the throttle does almost nothing, need to hit it at least half way to get he truck moving), I know it's a heavy truck but it also has a 4L V6, it should do better.
2. Cruise control could be better.
3. 'S' mode is kinda stupid, but seems like all Toyota and Lexus are like this.
4. Would be nice to have heated steering wheel.
5. No LED or HID lights (not even options) for a 2012 vehicle.
Still a great truck, love it more the more I drive it!
sandcrawler
Senior Member
you may find that you appreciate S-mode more with time. very handy to keep it in low gear when chugging off-road and dropping to 4 for extra passing/merging power on the highway.
bofa
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It's only been a few days but here are my issues and solutions so far:
1. Issue: Hydraulic hissing when applying the brakes
Solution: Turn up the radio or bring along the wife to talk over it
B. Issue: Sluggish acceleration
Solution: Push the pedal harder
III. Issue: Other older rusty 4Runners keep parking next to me
Solution: Park in the compact spots and throw an extra tetanus shot in the glovebox
:trophy:
I read through every page in this and there are some great 'nice to haves' and a few minor issues compared to other cars I've owned. I was a bit nervous to click the link at first but am relieved after reading it all. Good feedback for future models nonetheless!!
1. Issue: Hydraulic hissing when applying the brakes
Solution: Turn up the radio or bring along the wife to talk over it
B. Issue: Sluggish acceleration
Solution: Push the pedal harder
III. Issue: Other older rusty 4Runners keep parking next to me
Solution: Park in the compact spots and throw an extra tetanus shot in the glovebox
:trophy:
I read through every page in this and there are some great 'nice to haves' and a few minor issues compared to other cars I've owned. I was a bit nervous to click the link at first but am relieved after reading it all. Good feedback for future models nonetheless!!
After about a month of ownership, here is my short list:
Power Liftgate: Not so much opening (you still need to use the key fob, which defeats the purpose if you're trying to do it while carrying stuff); it's being able to close the liftgate by hitting a button that's really helpful when your arms are full. Had this on my Venza; it's the one feature I miss.
Handles on the A and B-pillars: Mitigated somewhat with the power running boards -- they stick out far enough that I'm not really missing the the handle that my 4th Gen had on the driver's A-pillar.
That's pretty much it so far. I had HIDs on my Venza and haven't really missed them on the 4Runner. I only used the USB interface once; I use Bluetooth streaming from my iPad almost daily. While it would be nice to be able to navigate playlists from the screen, having the ability to skip songs is good enough for me.
Power Liftgate: Not so much opening (you still need to use the key fob, which defeats the purpose if you're trying to do it while carrying stuff); it's being able to close the liftgate by hitting a button that's really helpful when your arms are full. Had this on my Venza; it's the one feature I miss.
Handles on the A and B-pillars: Mitigated somewhat with the power running boards -- they stick out far enough that I'm not really missing the the handle that my 4th Gen had on the driver's A-pillar.
That's pretty much it so far. I had HIDs on my Venza and haven't really missed them on the 4Runner. I only used the USB interface once; I use Bluetooth streaming from my iPad almost daily. While it would be nice to be able to navigate playlists from the screen, having the ability to skip songs is good enough for me.
GrantK
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Now that I’ve had my Trail Edition for a little while it’s time to pick some nits.
Seat comfort is poor for a vehicle in this price range. Improved lumbar support, adjustable side bolsters, adjustable thigh support, top quality cloth (stain resistant, breathable, etc). They at least could do it as an upgrade option. I would have paid over $1K extra for quality seats for both driver and passenger seats (I paid $800 in ’93 for similar on my Explorer).
Leather wrap steering wheel. The stock one is too slippery
The rear view mirror is too dark in daylight. It’s almost like instead of day/night mirror it’s a night/blacker than a politicians heart mirror.
Visibility out rear could be wider for improved safety. Just dump the useless trim on the sides of the rear window and it would be much better
A couple of items where Toyota dropped that ball for both PR and profit. This type of vehicle is going to get modified (duh) so why make it harder? Join the club and make a couple of bucks at the same time. Such as…
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A little better layout of the engine compartment would have allowed them to offer a second battery as an option. Either in front of the air box or by moving the fuse box back a few inches and putting two batteries on the drivers side. Toyota missed a possible profit option.
Along a similar line, an option for a high output alternator would be a good sell since people like to modify stereos, off-road lighting, winches, fridge, etc. They put in an inverter, they should have extra power and battery capacity for it..
A little extra clearance in the wheel wells would make larger tires easier to add, Toyota could have made it easier (good PR plan) and saved a couple $$$ by having a little less metal/plastic.
Seat comfort is poor for a vehicle in this price range. Improved lumbar support, adjustable side bolsters, adjustable thigh support, top quality cloth (stain resistant, breathable, etc). They at least could do it as an upgrade option. I would have paid over $1K extra for quality seats for both driver and passenger seats (I paid $800 in ’93 for similar on my Explorer).
Leather wrap steering wheel. The stock one is too slippery
The rear view mirror is too dark in daylight. It’s almost like instead of day/night mirror it’s a night/blacker than a politicians heart mirror.
Visibility out rear could be wider for improved safety. Just dump the useless trim on the sides of the rear window and it would be much better
A couple of items where Toyota dropped that ball for both PR and profit. This type of vehicle is going to get modified (duh) so why make it harder? Join the club and make a couple of bucks at the same time. Such as…
:
A little better layout of the engine compartment would have allowed them to offer a second battery as an option. Either in front of the air box or by moving the fuse box back a few inches and putting two batteries on the drivers side. Toyota missed a possible profit option.
Along a similar line, an option for a high output alternator would be a good sell since people like to modify stereos, off-road lighting, winches, fridge, etc. They put in an inverter, they should have extra power and battery capacity for it..
A little extra clearance in the wheel wells would make larger tires easier to add, Toyota could have made it easier (good PR plan) and saved a couple $$$ by having a little less metal/plastic.
UFG8R Runner
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Had my Runner for almost 2 weeks. Overall, I love it...but what couldn't use a little improvement? I know I could.
My Wish List:
1. More power. I would pawn my first born for two more cylinders. How about a Trail HD with a V8? Limited Platinum? I would be happy to pay for more power. :hungry:
2. Brake noise is annoying. It needs to stop- seriously, it sounds like I'm plunging a toilet.
3. Heated & Cooled Seats- in Florida--no matter how good your A/C is in the summer-- it's almost impossible not to have a sweat stain on your back. Perforated leather with cooled seats would be awesome.
4. Locking rear differential on Limited- this is a no brainer. For those of us guilty of being inexorably, even magnetically attracted to completely avoidable mud holes (or just for those of us that just like more buttons to push), this simply makes sense.
5. Understeer is a little heavy. How about a little less?
6. End the 7" wheels on the Limited! They are gorgeous, but skinnier than Calista Flockhart.
7. Lit Homelink buttons- because nothing spells anguish like fumbling for another .75 seconds to find the right button.
8. More Storage! Because real men need places to store our chainsaws, guns, tool boxes, hunting gear, and other venerated symbols of man-cred. :AK47:
9. Handle on the Driver's side A-pillar. Would help me avoid having to purchase steps.
10. Have a mentioned I want a V8 yet?
My Wish List:
1. More power. I would pawn my first born for two more cylinders. How about a Trail HD with a V8? Limited Platinum? I would be happy to pay for more power. :hungry:
2. Brake noise is annoying. It needs to stop- seriously, it sounds like I'm plunging a toilet.
3. Heated & Cooled Seats- in Florida--no matter how good your A/C is in the summer-- it's almost impossible not to have a sweat stain on your back. Perforated leather with cooled seats would be awesome.
4. Locking rear differential on Limited- this is a no brainer. For those of us guilty of being inexorably, even magnetically attracted to completely avoidable mud holes (or just for those of us that just like more buttons to push), this simply makes sense.
5. Understeer is a little heavy. How about a little less?
6. End the 7" wheels on the Limited! They are gorgeous, but skinnier than Calista Flockhart.
7. Lit Homelink buttons- because nothing spells anguish like fumbling for another .75 seconds to find the right button.
8. More Storage! Because real men need places to store our chainsaws, guns, tool boxes, hunting gear, and other venerated symbols of man-cred. :AK47:
9. Handle on the Driver's side A-pillar. Would help me avoid having to purchase steps.
10. Have a mentioned I want a V8 yet?
sbrooks64
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My F150 had heated and cooled seats wish the 4Runner did and memory seats
wdlsmaerw
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And going up and down the Rockies in the winter with a 7% grade for 10 miles. Good bye brakes...hello S-mode.
bobs4state
New member
My list
I wanna play:
1. Trailer hitch electrical connection - make it accessible.
2. Tin-can doors
3. Ipod UI - Come on!
4. Bluetooth sound - I rented a Kia last week that let me play songs directly off my iPhone via bluetooth. Loved it.
5. Wider tires on the Limited.
6. A little nicer Interior decorating. The new Camry's interior is very nice IMO.
7. And MORE POWER!! 5,000lbs is a joke for a truck this big. No way a Mercedes M350 should be able to tow a bigger boat than a 4Runner!
I wanna play:
1. Trailer hitch electrical connection - make it accessible.
2. Tin-can doors
3. Ipod UI - Come on!
4. Bluetooth sound - I rented a Kia last week that let me play songs directly off my iPhone via bluetooth. Loved it.
5. Wider tires on the Limited.
6. A little nicer Interior decorating. The new Camry's interior is very nice IMO.
7. And MORE POWER!! 5,000lbs is a joke for a truck this big. No way a Mercedes M350 should be able to tow a bigger boat than a 4Runner!
Curt Sauve
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You could move up to a Lexus GX460 for about the same price as an M class and get everything you are asking for. I doubt if the 4Runner will move much upscale from it's present form, but you might see some mild midcycle upgrades.
TOPDECK
New member
1: Pretty easy access on mine. How is it not accessible?
2: Yeah, body panels could be more thick.
3: There is an update available that makes it faster I believe and eliminates some errors. Check with your dealer.
4: It has that. Used mine today.
7: Can't really argue with you there!
bobs4state
New member
1. Well on mine, it is hidden under the bumper. There are threads on this.
3. His issue is also well documented. The whole scroll though the artist list, etc.
4. I'll go Look, but I don't think my 2010 supports this.
Thanks!
bobs4state
New member
That Kia I rented costs about 1/3 of a M-Class or GX460. The only thing on my list that would warrant a substantial price increase is the engine.
Thanks!
chetJ
New member
Right and
Plus- from the various posts on here that showed 5th Gen 4R's in what looked liked serious accidents, the thickness of the doors did not appear to affect the safety of the driver or the passengers in any way. So, I have to agree with Bofa- am not sure what the big deal about the door thickness is..someone please explain.
Plus- from the various posts on here that showed 5th Gen 4R's in what looked liked serious accidents, the thickness of the doors did not appear to affect the safety of the driver or the passengers in any way. So, I have to agree with Bofa- am not sure what the big deal about the door thickness is..someone please explain.
sandcrawler
Senior Member
works great on my 2010.
"feels cheaper" i think... it's a perception thing.
philsey
New member
+1. Yawn.
Ya know, somewhere back around the 20th or 30th time this was discussed, somebody was going to mic the steel on a 5G and a 4G.
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