5th Gen Official Complaint Thread to Toyota and Some Solutions

Owner of a 2011 Salsa Red TE here. I DESPISE the location of the brake light connector. It is so far back that every time I hook up to a trailer I either have to remember to bring my extender with me (which is normally hooked to my boat) or drive without the lights hooked up. It is just so far back that most trailers I've hooked up to just do not have long enough brake light cables.
I also own a 2011 TE Salsa and I too hate the location of the trailer power, as well if they had only put proper tow hooks in proper locations front and rear (especially on a TE).
 
You guys are too easy on me, I would have typically said I will buy all the cold beverages one can drink! Since it was suggested a cold beverage or maybe 2, well I will up the anti, the answer is a dozen for harper since he did all the good work and pics along with infor and 4 for you juast for the thread. Is that fair or what. I am just up the road from you guys in the Vancouver area just a bit north of Seattle (about 3-4 hours) Just drop me a note and it will be cold sittin in the fridge waitin for ya. (EH)
 
you may find that you appreciate S-mode more with time. very handy to keep it in low gear when chugging off-road and dropping to 4 for extra passing/merging power on the highway.

Man, you are right, I actually found the S mode quite useful when cursing on a hilly road. Since the cruise control in the D gear is really annoying when on a long uphill, it just keeps shifting between 4th and 5th and sometimes 3rd gear, it's so annoying to me, so I just put it in the S mode and limited it to the 4th gear and it becomes much better.
 
I wanna play:

1. Trailer hitch electrical connection - make it accessible.
2. Tin-can doors
3. Ipod UI - Come on!
4. Bluetooth sound - I rented a Kia last week that let me play songs directly off my iPhone via bluetooth. Loved it.
5. Wider tires on the Limited.
6. A little nicer Interior decorating. The new Camry's interior is very nice IMO.
7. And MORE POWER!! 5,000lbs is a joke for a truck this big. No way a Mercedes M350 should be able to tow a bigger boat than a 4Runner!

My LE plays songs on my phone via Bluetooth just fine, I use it all the time. I have a Samsung windows phone.
 
My top 5 complaints:

5) I hate how capable this truck is off-road. I like getting stuck!

4) I hate the roll-down rear window. WTF is up with that? If I want "angels licking the nape of my neck", I will....uh....

3) I hate how people look at my truck and give me compliments. Really ticks me off!

2) Body-On-Frame....need I say more?




And my biggest complaint:

1)This forum! This place is such a waste of time! ugh!


BTW, :nicethread:
Hopefully the Toyota engineers take this thread back to their bean counters and say "Hey guys, TOLD YOU SO!"

I think you're going to see this with the new CEO. Add a nicer interior, a V8 option, and the limited should have all the off road features of the trail edition.
 
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I think you're going to see this with the new CEO. Add a nicer interior, a V8 option, and the limited should have all the off road features of the trail edition.

I don't know. The last CEO loved the 4Runner and kept it around. If you really think about it, there is no real reason for it to exist as it currently is. I love my 4Runner, and 4Runners in general, but if I were CEO I would nix it.

Everyone else in the world gets the Prado, which shares the same frame as the Lexus GX and the 4Runner. The body is almost identical to the Lexus which is already here in North America.

It would make more sense to bring us a Prado which already has a V8 and more off road capability. I don't know, IMO I think they should rename it for the North American market and call it a day. Or, just give us a Prado and call it a 4Runner. They are already 80 - 90% there.

Just my opinion.
 
I don't know. The last CEO loved the 4Runner and kept it around. If you really think about it, there is no real reason for it to exist as it currently is. I love my 4Runner, and 4Runners in general, but if I were CEO I would nix it.

Everyone else in the world gets the Prado, which shares the same frame as the Lexus GX and the 4Runner. The body is almost identical to the Lexus which is already here in North America.

It would make more sense to bring us a Prado which already has a V8 and more off road capability. I don't know, IMO I think they should rename it for the North American market and call it a day. Or, just give us a Prado and call it a 4Runner. They are already 80 - 90% there.

Just my opinion.

And add a frikking Hilux 2.4TDI to the list at the same time please! :bravo:

Okki
 
I don't know. The last CEO loved the 4Runner and kept it around. If you really think about it, there is no real reason for it to exist as it currently is. I love my 4Runner, and 4Runners in general, but if I were CEO I would nix it.

Everyone else in the world gets the Prado, which shares the same frame as the Lexus GX and the 4Runner. The body is almost identical to the Lexus which is already here in North America.

It would make more sense to bring us a Prado which already has a V8 and more off road capability. I don't know, IMO I think they should rename it for the North American market and call it a day. Or, just give us a Prado and call it a 4Runner. They are already 80 - 90% there.

Just my opinion.

I see what you mean. I don't have the particulars but two of my very close friends who work at Toyota saw a rendering of what the new 4Runner looks like. It's supposed to be more sporty. Now I'm not sure if it's going to be out in 2013 or if they are going to make it a 2014 model. From what they were told it will debut well before the traditional 7 year life cycle.

I'm not sure what's coming down the pipe but Toyota is hiring 150 engineers to work here in the states on engine/transmission development. The Lexus RX debuted with a transverse 8 speed transmission for the F-Sport model. I think we are going to see a lot of much needed changes.

I've said it once, I'll say it again. As much as I do not like Ford, I'd be foolish not to mention their recent success. Under the leadership of Alan Mulally, Ford was able to make a turnaround in about 6 years. Mulally took over as CEO in 2006. It's going to take Akio about as long too. Either way, it's going to be interesting.
 
Electrical Issues

I have a 2012 SR5 with no after market mods. I am have some glitches where every now and again the trip odo, the avg mph while reset and the clock will reset. Then the alarm will go off for no reason. A Couple of times, I was not able to use the remote to lock or unlock the doors. Has anyone else had any issues?
 
My 3 month old TE has something loose in the front end (??) and also came with car tires and ground clearance isn't that super for TE machine. My taco had a lot more clearance. Time to lift it
 
My turn:
- driveshaft clunky-thumpy after stop and release brake (Happens infrequent. Aware of TSB and will keep eyes on it)

- 70mph-75mph axle humming noise when gas pedal pressed (Maybe harmonic sound of axle???)

- Various rattle noises:
. Rattles under dash board (Fixed by disconnect wire harness etc)
. Rattle under engine/transmission when in gear or stationary and when start accelerate (Still there)
. Rattle from front bumper when slamming door close (Some loose part near front bumper)
. Rattle from rear brake when slamming door close (I think related to parking brake)
 
The only thing I would complain about on my 4runner is the engine vibration felt when the truck is on idle. Toyota is trying to find a fix as of now.
 
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5th Gen complaints

Interior black plastic scuffs very easily and turns a pukeish green color. Super thin sheet metal. Dynamatted the doors and that made a huge difference. Super thin hood. I used expansive sealer from hardware store and shot it between the hood and underside cross braces. Can get very messy but does a great job of eliminating the rippling. Will put dynamat or spray on deadener on the open (single layer sheetmetal) areas.
Slide out tray kind of useless. Took mine out and had uneven, uncarpeted floor. This inspired me to make a floor and now I have a home under the floor for some bad ass amps and DSP for my very soon sound system upgrade.
Steering is really soft but I got used to it. Nose dives when braking but Toytec coilovers solved that.
Overall, love my 5th Gen Trail model. Get nothing but compliments from friends and strangers.
 
Hey all 5th Gen experts. I have a question for you as I am getting the run around from Toyota. If you have a 2010 4Runner SR5 and your vehicle horn doesnt sound feminine and annoying please let me know how many horns are behind your grill. I am being told that my vehicle only has one and that is how its supposed to be because I dont have the smart key system and its not a limited edition. I have looked in other SR5's and spoke with a previous Toyota technician and have been assured that all toyota vehicles have two horns for the vehicle horn, not including the security horn. If your vehicle has two horns you can see them through the front of the grill to the right of the hood latch. If there is anybody in Tucson with this vehicle and would be ok with me looking under the hood, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for the help. 4Runnin
 
Hey all 5th Gen experts. I have a question for you as I am getting the run around from Toyota. If you have a 2010 4Runner SR5 and your vehicle horn doesnt sound feminine and annoying please let me know how many horns are behind your grill. I am being told that my vehicle only has one and that is how its supposed to be because I dont have the smart key system and its not a limited edition. I have looked in other SR5's and spoke with a previous Toyota technician and have been assured that all toyota vehicles have two horns for the vehicle horn, not including the security horn. If your vehicle has two horns you can see them through the front of the grill to the right of the hood latch. If there is anybody in Tucson with this vehicle and would be ok with me looking under the hood, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for the help. 4Runnin

Some 2010's only had one meep-meep horn. Here's the fix,thanks to Pat..... http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/59265-new-fiamm-horn-install.html
 

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