5th Gen SUPER WHITE TRAIL

[NOOB4RUNNER]

Hey hows it going names Jeremy and I recently purchased a new 5th GEN Trail. I'm new to this world and found this amazing site thats just full of great info.

I was wondering if anyone could help me out and just give me some pointers? I have no idea what brands are best, parts, etc...

I want to do some basic things lift and roof rack with a light bar.

Sorry if this is a thread already somewhere and if I sound like completly clueless.

Jeremy

 

[cjacob316]

Hey hows it going names Jeremy and I recently purchased a new 5th GEN Trail. I'm new to this world and found this amazing site thats just full of great info.

I was wondering if anyone could help me out and just give me some pointers? I have no idea what brands are best, parts, etc...

I want to do some basic things lift and roof rack with a light bar.

Sorry if this is a thread already somewhere and if I sound like completly clueless.

Jeremy

For lifts, check out places like:
Toytec Lifts: Toyota Lift Kits: FJ Cruiser Lift Kits, Tacoma Lift Kits, Tundra Lift Kits, 4 Runner Lift Kits, Sequoia Lift Kits, Toyota Truck Lift Kits or
Quality Off Road Parts & Accessories Since 1999
Also:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/165065-5th-gen-4runner-lift-buyers-guide.html
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/65893-post-your-lifted-pix-here.html
As for a roof rack:
Gobi Racks - Hummer, Jeep, Toyota Racks
Baja Rack
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/152757-fs-5th-gen-full-length-roof-racks-drabbits.html

Stickies at the top are your friends for finding info.

 

[NOOB4RUNNER]

For lifts, check out places like:
Toytec Lifts: Toyota Lift Kits: FJ Cruiser Lift Kits, Tacoma Lift Kits, Tundra Lift Kits, 4 Runner Lift Kits, Sequoia Lift Kits, Toyota Truck Lift Kits or
Quality Off Road Parts & Accessories Since 1999
Also:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/165065-5th-gen-4runner-lift-buyers-guide.html
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/65893-post-your-lifted-pix-here.html
As for a roof rack:
Gobi Racks - Hummer, Jeep, Toyota Racks
Baja Rack
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/152757-fs-5th-gen-full-length-roof-racks-drabbits.html

Stickies at the top are your friends for finding info.

Thanks boss looks like I have some work cut out for me!

Lots of research to do!

 

[cjacob316]

Thanks boss looks like I have some work cut out for me!

Lots of research to do!

It all boils down to what you want the lift for, how much lift, and if you want larger tires. The lift buyers guide starts from the cheapest options and works it's way up. A good bit of people end up somewhere in the middle with Bilsteins or Old Man Emu kits. Those start on page two.

 

[NOOB4RUNNER]

It all boils down to what you want the lift for, how much lift, and if you want larger tires. The lift buyers guide starts from the cheapest options and works it's way up. A good bit of people end up somewhere in the middle with Bilsteins or Old Man Emu kits. Those start on page two.

Looking at your truck are those the same tires it came with?

 

[cjacob316]

Looking at your truck are those the same tires it came with?

Yes. I have a lot of on road trips planned this year and early next. I'm going to just burn through these before I go spend some money on all terrains, but I plan to keep the stock size.

 

[mcarey86]

Yes. I have a lot of on road trips planned this year and early next. I'm going to just burn through these before I go spend some money on all terrains, but I plan to keep the stock size.

Why lift if you're not going to put bigger tires on?

 

[cjacob316]

Why lift if you're not going to put bigger tires on?

There are several guys here who have lifted and kept the stock tire size, it's not uncommon.

 

[mcarey86]

I understand that it may not be uncommon, I'm asking why do it though.

Is it not the point of lifting, to fit bigger tires, to increase ground clearance?

 

[SKP-4R]

Check out the Group Buy section on the Classifieds section on the forum. There should be a thread on ICON suspension group buy going on right now. Chas at Total Automotice Performance IS giving a huge discount on ICON. If you're looking at suspension lifts, ICON is your best bet. Super high quality parts. I ordered mine from him and the discounts he's offering are excellent. ICON hardly ever had discounts. If you have the money I would recommend a Stage 2 over ToyTech or Bilstein.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/group...n-kits-free-spanner-w-purchase-limit-ten.html

 

[cjacob316]

I understand that it may not be uncommon, I'm asking why do it though.

Is it not the point of lifting, to fit bigger tires, to increase ground clearance?

Lifting increases ground clearance. There is only a half inch difference in ground clearance between a 265 and 285 tire. More of the added ground clearance comes from the lift than the tire. I live in south Louisiana, no rocks. Thick mud and deeps ruts are my main concern to be honest. I also drive a lot, at minimum 300 miles on pavement a week and the stock size keeps my mpg in check.

 

[mcarey86]

Maybe I'm hallucinating, but doesn't the axle remain in the same location if you lift but keep the same tire size?

 

[cjacob316]

Maybe I'm hallucinating, but doesn't the axle remain in the same location if you lift but keep the same tire size?

Rear axle yes. But then again, you only gain a half inch on 285's vs 265's. I could be wrong about this, but I believe that the rear diff was not the lowest point on the vehicle before the lift, now it is and would still be even with larger tires.

 

[DesertCanyons]

Lift increase in ground clearance

Maybe I'm hallucinating, but doesn't the axle remain in the same location if you lift but keep the same tire size?

Yes, the axle stays in the same place. But everything else that's attached to the frame gets lifted, increasing ground clearance. The gas tank, exhaust pipe where it crosses below below the tranny, the frame itself, the transfer case, the front diff, the spare tire, the trailer hitch, etc all get lifted. Probably the most important parts to be lifted are the front and rear bumpers, the plastic body parts that cost plenty to repaint if you scratch them, or worse, break them off. By lifting you increase the approach, break-over and departure angles.

For the rear differential I will seriously consider a diff skid plate when my 4R comes in. Also rear shock guards and maybe a front lower control arm skid plate. These parts all stay in the same place when the frame gets lifted with higher suspension.

Taller tires only lift the differential marginally - by half the change in tire height from stock tire height. The advantage of taller tires, in my mind, is easier rolling over rocks, holes and sand with an increased tire radius.

It may also make it easier to air out the tires in sand due to more rubber on the sidewall and more height protecting the rim from dings and pinch flats.

 

[mcarey86]

Thanks for the information. This place is great.

 

[dieck]

Just to add to the circus. A 2-3 inch lift on these toyota platforms is easy and keeps most stock components intact and in design specs. More than that and you get reliability issues.

Agree a 2-3 inch lift makes a big difference offroad even with stock size tires. The pumpkin is all that is low on the axle and you can protect it or drive with it in mind. Approach, breakover, and departure angles increase pretty dramatically w a 3 inch lift.