640lbs of Rear Sag

[westwind77]

Tossed 8 80lb concrete bags in the back today....

EMPTY

FULL

 

[KCcarguy]

I can't think of any time in life that sagging is a good thing.

 

[homeyclaus]

Not to be confused with the amount of sag 300 lbs on the hitch produces

Seriously though, thanks for the pics. I actually prefer the way my 4R rides when it has that kind of weight in the back.

 

[StRanger7032]

Not too bad for that much weight. If I were hauling that much weight on a regular basis, I'd invest in a Timbren SES kit. I have them on my work truck (2011 Suburban 2500), and I can drop an 8000lb trailer on it with almost no sag. No effect on ride when unloaded.

 

[Ripsnort]

Tossed 8 80lb concrete bags in the back today....

EMPTY

Was that WITH the body encased in teh concrete? Or before he went into the river. :uzi:

 

[Qjake]

That actually doesn't look bad, was expecting worse thou in theory these trucks should have no probs with 600lbs in the back. How did the weight affect the handling?

 

[Antman]

Must. Install. Airbags.

 

[jca21]

looks nice and level lol.

 

[Titanpat57]

I can't think of any time in life that sagging is a good thing.

Trust me...

you learn to live with it...:roadkill:

 

[westwind77]

Seriously though, thanks for the pics. I actually prefer the way my 4R rides when it has that kind of weight in the back.

I usually like it with a little, did not like it with that much.

Not too bad for that much weight. If I were hauling that much weight on a regular basis, I'd invest in a Timbren SES kit. I have them on my work truck (2011 Suburban 2500), and I can drop an 8000lb trailer on it with almost no sag. No effect on ride when unloaded.

I should have taken measurements but it looks less than what it was. Every bag I lifted out you could feel and watch the 4R raise up.

Was that WITH the body encased in teh concrete? Or before he went into the river. :uzi:

It I tell you then you might end up the same

That actually doesn't look bad, was expecting worse thou in theory these trucks should have no probs with 600lbs in the back. How did the weight affect the handling?

You could feel the front at a higher angle and the weight in the rear. I took roads I take every days going over the bumps and potholes you could feel very little movement from the suspension in the rear because it was weighted down so much. Gave it a little side to side, you could feel the weight, not as stable as w/o. I love the 4R, there are some improvements to be made if you are going to be do specific activities (hauling/towing).

looks nice and level lol.

I think there is a slight rake to the rear. I guess instead of getting the 5100's I can just get 650 for the rear!

 

[1000MPH]

Not too bad considering what the 4runner was spec'd for.
Tundra's they are not.
My Trail is rated at 795 lbs max payload...or about 3 grown men and golfclubs.
I wonder what the Rav4 or a subaru would look like with 640lbs back there.

 

[scanny]

You could feel the front at a higher angle and the weight in the rear. I took roads I take every days going over the bumps and potholes you could feel very little movement from the suspension in the rear because it was weighted down so much. Gave it a little side to side, you could feel the weight, not as stable as w/o. I love the 4R, there are some improvements to be made if you are going to be do specific activities (hauling/towing).

Did you fold rear seats or you dropped all that bags in the trunk?

Once I loaded 18 boxes (about 40lbs each) of the laminate floor and I didn't notice that much sag or troubles in handling. But I loaded them up evenly with rear seats folded.

 

[Koz]

A cheap set of air bags will eliminate the sag and can be deflated when empty. Changing the shocks will not help with sag, it will help control the extra weight. It's a shame Toyota stopped offering the auto leveling rear air-spring susp for those who tow and/or carry extra weight.

Koz

 

[westwind77]

Did you fold rear seats or you dropped all that bags in the trunk?
Once I loaded 18 boxes (about 40lbs each) of the laminate floor and I didn't notice that much sag or troubles in handling. But I loaded them up evenly with rear seats folded.

I loaded them close to the tailgate, 2 rows stacked 2 high. I know I could have distributed the weight better but was only going a few miles down the road. Would have be a PIA to move everything in front of the seats & car seat just to do that. I will say, that is ONE this I miss about my Durango, the 2nd row seats would fold flat on top of the base without having to flip it forward. If I needed to load something big I would just drop the two halves, load, and go. If I'm not mistaken though the 3rd row 4R's are set up like that? I remember seeing a pic on here.

 

[scanny]

I loaded them close to the tailgate, 2 rows stacked 2 high. I know I could have distributed the weight better but was only going a few miles down the road. Would have be a PIA to move everything in front of the seats & car seat just to do that. I will say, that is ONE this I miss about my Durango, the 2nd row seats would fold flat on top of the base without having to flip it forward. If I needed to load something big I would just drop the two halves, load, and go. If I'm not mistaken though the 3rd row 4R's are set up like that? I remember seeing a pic on here.

Yes, I wouldn't bother either, I fold seats only for long cargo. Just was curious what caused that visible sag. And it's good to know what to expect : )

 

[1000MPH]

Sure, Toyota could make the 4runner a more versatile truck but then you probably wouldn't consider the Sequoia.
Did you get a chance to drive the loaded 4R at night? I'm wondering how bad the headlights are affected. Even with a light load I get flashed for highbeams all the time.