95 trany & differential overhaul, what is reasonable?

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Ok here is the story I just bought my 1st Toyota 95 4x4 automatic and love the thing. Ok I had to replace both upper and lower ball joints both sides now come to find out I have a project vehicle!!!! I need the bushings in my control arms replaced. I was on a road trip and started loosing trany fluid and got it towed to a transmission repair shop in San Antonio. ok my truck has 159k miles and the repair shop asked for my ok to drop the box on the trans for $385, then days later they tell me I need a transmission and transfer case overhaul kit filter pump bushing band as well as torque converter. I will also need a TV throttle valve cable fluids for both and transfer case overhaul kit with 21 clutches and a direct drum.!!!!!!!! Final price $ 3,495 What do you guys think? I have no idea and had no idea it was going to be as much as I paid for my truck? Any information would be helpful this is a 95 SR5 4runner 4x4 V6 in classic shape other than tranny. The truck is in San Antonio at Sergeant transmission repair is this a fair price or would this equal a new tranny and transfer case:toilet:?
 
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They have you over a barrel. If you so no, they're probably going to charge you half that amount just to put it back together and re-install in the truck.
Unless it actually totally self destructed, they may be taking advantage of you.
Why would the transfer case need overhauling? Why a throttle cable? (that's external).
Although the V6 auto tranny has an integral t-case, which adds to the labor involved.
 
They sound like a gotcha shop, it's shady way to do things ! But lots of tranny shops do it, sucks and that is way to much. But they have your vehicle, so good luck.
 
Man I know you guys are right they have me bent over, and yeah it was always shifting fine and only on long hauls would the A/T Oil temp light come on and what is with the differential rebuild? please anymore help I can get would help, I will be sure and ask them about the differential. Honors ya'll
 
First let me break this down a little for you. This is their cost. The parts involved excluding the torque converter and electrical switches run about 125.00 probably closer to 75. A rebuilt torque converter let's say 100 dollars probably 65. The electrical switches can run around 300. By the way these are after market parts. If they use Toyota they go up significantly. So to be safe let's say between 400 and 600 dollars in parts. Keep in mind that on transmission work some places consider the replacing the oil an extra cost. The drum they mentioned and the cable would be extra to this cost so you would have to check on those prices, but they are not that much and would probably fall within the 600 dollars total for parts.

Now you mentioned the differential. I am not sure why your rear end is involved in this. Are you sure you do not mean the transfer case? If you do mean the transfer case then it really depends on what they say needs to be replaced however my guess is there is nothing wrong with it if it only has 159,000 on it, but again the transmission should not have went out at 159,000 unless abused.
I have a 92, although I am looking for a standard in a 3rd generation, and the transfer case and transmission are one unit so it has to be removed and rebuilt with the transmission. Yours is not. So on mine they had to also rebuild the transfer case when they did the transmission. My bill for the transmission, transfer case, torque converter and all the electrical switches including towing was 2300.16 dollars including taxes.
I currently have under 3000 miles on it.

So yes I would say that they are shafting you. I used USA transmission locally. One thing you did not mention is the warranty time and miles. Long warranties can add a lot of money to a rebuild cost. I chose 6 months to get the cost down. If they are offering a lifetime or even a 3 year with 50,000 miles then the price that they gave might not be to far off as long warranties add a lot of cost. If this is the case then perhaps you can get them down significantly if you shorten the warranty, but 2500 including taxes out the door should be tops and a little lower is more in line. Tell them they need to get that price down to around 2000 and bicker with them like buying a new or used car.

Now about what to do. If you choose to allow them to continue and do the rebuild then you need make sure that price they give is out the door cost no matter what else they might have to replace, including fluid or internal electrical switches. On mine they were all replaced and they are expensive.

Now if you choose not to let them rebuild the transmission I would rent a tow dolly from Home depot or some rental place and go pick this thing up with everything tore down. That means you will now have 385 dollars in the transmission inspection. I would then find someone who would agree to put in a used transmission that I would bring to them or price around and see what it would cost to have that one rebuilt as well as replaced since it is already out. Keep in mind this might not work for you.

Now some information for future reference. NEVER, and I mean NEVER allow a transmission shop to drop a transmission to give an estimate unless they will do it for free. It is unnecessary. This is not their first rodeo and they know all the parts needed (they come in a kit and they usually never use them all) and they can give an estimate on a full rebuild without removing it. On mine they did not remove it to give me an estimate. I hope this helps.
 
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You are such a savior thank you and much respect!

I will take your advice and talk with them accordingly, my only concern is that if I go with a shorter warranty will they put in les desirable parts? They have discussed the 3 year warranty so that will be addressed. My at oil temp light only come on on extended drives. and it always shifted fine. until I had the long drive and my oil and tranny fluid replaced at wingmans oil n lube in marble fall. I was told my tranny was over full so perhaps they over filled it? I am going to try and get then to drop the 385 for dropping the tranny and ask for a 200-2500 price tops and yes why the torque converter and yes the differential or something else you mentioned. Hey who does great work in San Antonio for engines, lifts and more? Thank you once again you have been a huge help.
 
I will take your advice and talk with them accordingly, my only concern is that if I go with a shorter warranty will they put in les desirable parts? They have discussed the 3 year warranty so that will be addressed. My at oil temp light only come on on extended drives. and it always shifted fine. until I had the long drive and my oil and tranny fluid replaced at wingmans oil n lube in marble fall. I was told my tranny was over full so perhaps they over filled it? I am going to try and get then to drop the 385 for dropping the tranny and ask for a 200-2500 price tops and yes why the torque converter and yes the differential or something else you mentioned. Hey who does great work in San Antonio for engines, lifts and more? Thank you once again you have been a huge help.

About the temp light. Unless you are pulling something or really hammering on the vehicle up hills it should never come on. Either the sensor for the light is faulty or there is some problem with the tranny cooler at the radiator or even a blockage.
As for not as good of parts if the warranty is shorter, no that should not change things. The rebuild kits are what they are. I doubt they are going to drop the 385, but they will include it in the final price if you give them the ok to go ahead.
As for the torque converter it is best to change it since the tranny is out. No need in taking a chance of it going out in 6 month or a year and having to pull the tranny again just to replace that. I hope this all works out for you.
 
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Yessur, I will try and talk em down see if they will at least work with me on dropping the 385 for pulling the trany to look inside since they already knew they were going to do a re build. They are doing the transfer case as well I did not know if I had mentioned that earlier. Hey if you were ever going to put on a solid suspension lift who would you go with?
 
The 385 removal fee should be credited back to you if you have ANY work done there.
That's normal procedure for any shop that operates that way. Insist on that.
 
You are in Marble Falls? I work down the road in Johnson City but I live in Kerrville.
That price seems pretty high to me... but who am I to say... I just spent $4600 on a new engine. :ohwell:
You can usually find 4runners on craiglist that have 3VZE's with blown head gaskets for cheap. Then you could have all kinds of spare parts, tranny/t-case, etc.
 
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