Another winh rope question!!!

[kolelt]

So i had to make a new winch rope crimp end piece. Because the original smittybilt one went to poop after 2 re spools.

My concern is that, i dont like how the line is not flush to the side of the winch. Because the crimp is thick. Not that it was any thinner before.

Wondering if you guys have the same issue and simply not worry... or should i just ditch the crimp end and tape the rope to the drum, then spool the rope over it simply with tension.









wondering if i should do this



any ideas?

 

[3bears]

don't know what to tell you, but out here, rope winch is worthless
seen too many snap

 

[Reinout]

kolelt I have a, IMO, perfect solution. It stems from sailing: Splice it.

There are a few ways: do you know if it's a kern/mantle construction? It means there is an inner load bearing cable withith an external "sock" so to speak that protects the Inside. It doesn't appear to be to me from what I can tell.

If it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym1-rI0SdaA
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/document.do?docId=921

If not, you can "un-braid" a section. Say about 8-12" and braid it back on itself. Similar to this: Splicing Three-Strand Rope - BoatTECH - BoatUS

Of course, the braid on the SMittybilt is a little more complex, but it should be doable. All that you'll need is a segment of shrinktubing to put on before you start so that you can seal the splice.

I hope that this helps a little bit at the least.

You can use the same method to "thicken" the end of the rope to not pass through.

 

[kolelt]

don't know what to tell you, but out here, rope winch is worthless
seen too many snap

Thanks. Probably user error. Ill tell that to the jeeps i pulled out


[MENTION=148230]Reinout[/MENTION] i was looking at this
https://www.amazon.com/U-S-made-WINCHROPE-RETAINER-RECOVERY/dp/B004VPEKGA

 

[Reinout]

Heck, that would be easy enough to solve the issue. LOL.

 

[theesotericone]

What about just tying a clove hitch around the drum?

 

[kolelt]

Heck, that would be easy enough to solve the issue. LOL.

Lol right. Seems legit right ? Not like you should pull on that many rolls anyways.

 

[kolelt]

What about just tying a clove hitch around the drum?

Interesting

Want to see what other people do and if anyone has this issue. Or if it is even a concern.

 

[Reinout]

Clove hitch would work.

Question with any of these solutions is going to become, "How much of the rope did I just lose?"

 

[Reinout]

kolelt, Just thought of something and then I'll move on.

In some cases you can join two segments of rope/cable together that are different diameters. What about taking a few feet of a stiffer, but narrower diameter steel cable and splicing it into the synthetic rope? The last little bit that gets spooled up but can be much smaller than the rope, thus laying closer to the spool. I would imagine that provides a smooth transition and less bulk. I personally don't see any reason that you couldn't splice the two together.

THis might be something that would require a test-run with a similar braided synthetic rope and a section of cable so you don't ruin the smittybilt rope.

In my experience of splicing ropes to ropes you don't need any sort of sleeve (but I recommend it) because the friction between the two ropes is very high.

I googled but was not able to come up with an example of this.

 

[Airmapper]

I simply taped mine to the spool and let it wrap to hold itself with tension.

My reasoning was if I had a breakage or for some reason had to re-spool the winch on the fly, that was easy and quick to do on the trail. Tape is something I keep in my truck anyway, no tools required. Also in the event I spool out too far and it can't hold, it just falls off, it doesn't rip out a connection.

Also since there is no hardware on the end of the line, the spool is smooth and free from anything that can burr or damage the line.

The way I see it taping that strip down and wrapping over it is perfectly acceptable and has many advantages to a hardware connection.

Keep it simple, ditch that metal tag on your line and take advantage of what synthetic is good for, being easy to rig and handle.

 

[reelamin]

Having just purchased a Engo 1200 I really looked at the synthetic rope and went steel for now. I might end up with braid/synthetic...but not for now.

Why??

I fish a lot and will share this comparison....I absolutely love braided line (same stuff basically as winch rope) and use it for 95% of my fishing. The times I will not use it is in rocks with lots of tension (big fish who go where they want). It is a proven fact you break off way more fish than with mono. The mono does not loose its tensile strength with nicks near as quickly as braid. The difference in durability is really not even comparable. Yes the two (winching against abrasion, dragging line against abrasion) are exactly the same.