Any opinions or experience with Yota1 Assembled Knuckle

[jross20]

So I wanted to go ahead and get my front bearings replace before they inevitably go bad. (Especially before our upcoming 4000 mile trip).

I'm well aware that our rigs require a press and a load of effort to swap the bearings...but I found a vendor selling free preassembled knuckles with your choice of oem bearings, upper ball joint (or no ball joint), manual hubs or fixed hubs, etc. It's around $1,235.00 (with removable dust shields) or so and my current mechanic figures that it might be worth it when we compare the labor with the cost of OEM parts. While he is pretty competent he was honest and says he has never done this job on a 3rd gen.

Money wise it isn't really a big deal, unless everyone thinks it is a total waste.

Has anyone used these? Any thoughts or opinions on the idea and pricing?

Pre-Assembled Steering Knuckles - ADD Hubs - PAIR - Tacoma and 4Runner - Yota1 Performance, Inc.

 

[Devbot]

They better do my damn taxes for that price. That's quite a bit more than HFW, and those come reinforced and powder coated

 

[JohnMc]

Yeah, that's about the only problem I see. Very, very pricey.

When I did the manual hub swap on my '99 last year I didn't want it to be apart for a long while so I got some 'donor' ABS knuckles from the junkyard (best ones I found on my trip were from a 1st gen Sequoia) and took those, my donor manual hubs, new bearings, and new dust shields by a machine shop fir disassembly/reassembly. And when that was done I put on the new ball joints and installed them in a fairly quick process.

Waaaaay less than that for both sides, including the manul hub parts.

 

[jross20]

They better do my damn taxes for that price. That's quite a bit more than HFW, and those come reinforced and powder coated

HFW? Is that another vendor?

Yeah, that's about the only problem I see. Very, very pricey.

When I did the manual hub swap on my '99 last year I didn't want it to be apart for a long while so I got some 'donor' ABS knuckles from the junkyard (best ones I found on my trip were from a 1st gen Sequoia) and took those, my donor manual hubs, new bearings, and new dust shields by a machine shop fir disassembly/reassembly. And when that was done I put on the new ball joints and installed them in a fairly quick process.

Waaaaay less than that for both sides, including the manul hub parts.

You know I was originally planning on doing a manual hub swap but the total price for everything with that was around I think like $900 bucks whereas just doing the bearings in the bare minimum stuff was like $400-500. I haven't looked at it in a few days so I don't remember the exact prices but I have it written down on the computer.

What are you guys paying for labor on this swap?

 

[19963.4lsr5]

HFW? Is that another vendor?



You know I was originally planning on doing a manual hub swap but the total price for everything with that was around I think like $900 bucks whereas just doing the bearings in the bare minimum stuff was like $400-500. I haven't looked at it in a few days so I don't remember the exact prices but I have it written down on the computer.

What are you guys paying for labor on this swap?

The 400-500 min stuff was that to do one knuckle or both?


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[jross20]

The 400-500 min stuff was that to do one knuckle or both?


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That was just the parts, (no knuckle, and without shipping), to do the bearing swap. Here is the list I came up with based on researching on the site:

Snap Ring Spacer 90560-27005 x2
Wheel Bearing 90369-54002 x2
CV Snap Ring 90520-27023 x2
Safety Bolt? 90119-08466 x2
Snap Ring 90521-99114 x2
Inner Seal 90316-69001 x2
Outer Seal 90312-95001 x2
Bearing Nut 43521-35010 x2

The actual total comes to around $398.52 give or take price fluctuations on McGeorge Toyota's side.

 

[JohnMc]

The only labor we paid for was the machine shop press work, I'd stripped everything down as far as it would go on both sets of knuckles and they just did the bearing and seal (and new brake backing plates since they're behind the hubs). $200 for both sides.

 

[jross20]

The only labor we paid for was the machine shop press work, I'd stripped everything down as far as it would go on both sets of knuckles and they just did the bearing and seal (and new brake backing plates since they're behind the hubs). $200 for both sides.

Ah okay I gotcha. Well maybe it won't be as labor intensive as I originally thought. I guess I might just go the parts right and see what happens.
:snacker:

 

[19963.4lsr5]

That was just the parts, (no knuckle, and without shipping), to do the bearing swap. Here is the list I came up with based on researching on the site:

Snap Ring Spacer90560-27005x2
Wheel Bearing90369-54002x2
CV Snap Ring90520-27023x2
Safety Bolt?90119-08466x2
Snap Ring90521-99114x2
Inner Seal90316-69001x2
Outer Seal90312-95001x2
Bearing Nut43521-35010x2

The actual total comes to around $398.52 give or take price fluctuations on McGeorge Toyota's side.

Thanks. Plus two to four hours shop labor per side for the bearing work.

The pair of ADD knuckles are 1335 divided by two is about 670 per side.


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[JohnMc]

Even though they pictured a pair of knuckles, for some reason I was thinking the price was per knuckle. I didn't read the fine print. If it's a pair, it's obviously a lot more reasonable price wise.

 

[19963.4lsr5]

Even though they pictured a pair of knuckles, for some reason I was thinking the price was per knuckle. I didn't read the fine print. If it's a pair, it's obviously a lot more reasonable price wise.

Yep, when I first seen it I thought the same, 1300 for one knuckle.


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[jross20]

I'm pretty sure the price is for two; I'll check to confirm. Assuming it's two, I take it you guys think it's worth it then?

 

[Devbot]

HFW? Is that another vendor?



You know I was originally planning on doing a manual hub swap but the total price for everything with that was around I think like $900 bucks whereas just doing the bearings in the bare minimum stuff was like $400-500. I haven't looked at it in a few days so I don't remember the exact prices but I have it written down on the computer.

What are you guys paying for labor on this swap?

Heavy Friction Works, I believe the only way to contact them about assembled knuckles in through Instagram but they do good work. I recall them being in the $750-850 ballpark for a pair. Pretty sure he does manual hubs too but not sure what the pricing is on them.

I'm pretty sure the price is for two; I'll check to confirm. Assuming it's two, I take it you guys think it's worth it then?

Not unless they get delivered on a gold platter.
A used spindle can be had for $50-100, and the bearings are only like $100-150. Remember that.

 

[jross20]

Heavy Friction Works, I believe the only way to contact them about assembled knuckles in through Instagram but they do good work. I recall them being in the $750-850 ballpark for a pair. Pretty sure he does manual hubs too but not sure what the pricing is on them.


Not unless they get delivered on a gold platter.
A used spindle can be had for $50-100, and the bearings are only like $100-150. Remember that.

Dang I don't have any social media. Well I guess I'll go the parts route then.

That list I posted above, am I missing anything or is that basically everything you need?

 

[JZiggy]

Use the opportunity to have spindle gussets installed too. After you press in whatever UCA adapter you want (such as JBA).

 

[jross20]

Use the opportunity to have spindle gussets installed too. After you press in whatever UCA adapter you want (such as JBA).

Yep yep, I've actually got a pair that I bought years ago along with some other weld on items
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[mtbtim]

If you can find a set of used manual hub spindles from a 1st Gen Tacoma, you can do the job yourself like [MENTION=148218]JZiggy[/MENTION] and I did on his rig and mine. You can also weld on your own spindle gussets.


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[jross20]

If you can find a set of used manual hub spindles from a 1st Gen Tacoma, you can do the job yourself like [MENTION=148218]JZiggy[/MENTION] and I did on his rig and mine. You can also weld on your own spindle gussets.


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Timmmahhh!

Oh yeah, I've actually been watching these here recently to get an idea of what I was involved. I haven't fully decided on the manual hubs yet...
:keyboard:

 

[JohnMc]

Manual hubs are nice in a few ways:
1) If your front suspension is set pretty high and you're chewing through CV boots - only turning them while you are actually wheeling makes them last far, far longer
2) If you break a CV shaft out on the trail and want to limp it home, freewheel the front hubs, and 2WD, and nothing is moving up there.

 

[JZiggy]

Manual hubs are nice in a few ways:
1) If your front suspension is set pretty high and you're chewing through CV boots - only turning them while you are actually wheeling makes them last far, far longer
2) If you break a CV shaft out on the trail and want to limp it home, freewheel the front hubs, and 2WD, and nothing is moving up there.

Folks say that swapping to manual hubs doesn't affect gas mileage but I personally can feel the change in drag with the hubs locked, mainly at highway speeds. (Might just be a 3RZ problem though!)