Any reasons why I should not buy a 1998 5 speed with eLocker

[ranchdog]

Update...I bought it !!!! $6500

(might seem high but compared to fixing others after you bought for $4000 and he put new $1000 mud tires on it I think its a good deal for both of us)

1998 4Runner 163K miles, leather seats, no rust, single owner, 5 speed E-Locker and Clutch start, Its clean and he recently changed timing belt and water pump plus just put a new clutch in the manual tranmission. All windows and 4WD drive works, E-Locker works. He custom ordered it to his specs, been in Texas its got No rust as I said, engine is very clean, he has most all receipts for work done on it.











FEATURES
- 4WD 5 Speed Manual Transmission with Brand New Clutch
- Heavy Duty Battery, Starter, Window Wiper Reservoir (Ordered as Option)
- Heavy Duty Toyota OEM Brush Guard (Ordered as Option)
- Differential Locks (Ordered as Option)
- Clutch Start/Cancel Switch (Ordered as Option)
- Rear Heater (Ordered as Option)
- Cruise Control
- Pass Key Security
- AM/FM Stereo (with 6 Speakers)
- CD player (Single Disc)
- Air Conditioning
- Rear window defroster
- Power steering
- Power windows, including Rear Window
- ABS brakes (4-Wheel) - Front Disc/Rear Drum
- Dual front impact airbags
- Front anti-roll bar
- Front wheel independent suspension
- Rear anti-roll bar
- Power Moonroof
- Privacy Glass
- Leather Interior
- Power Door Locks
- Westin Nerf Bars - New
- Aluminum Alloy Wheels
- Child Safety Locks
- Tilt Wheel
- Active Seat Belts
- Roof Rack
- Towing Package
- Tonneau Cargo Cover
- New BF Goodrich Mud Terrain T/A Tires. Paid >$1000.00 ~6,300 Miles Ago

 

[ranchdog]

Ah Rats all the pics posted sideways out:...Fixed it now.

Sorry, Ranchdog

 

[Sean K.]

Congrats. I'm sure you'll be very happy with it.

 

[RonJR]

5-speed isn't all that bad for rock-crawling. It's not as mindless as an auto, but kind of fun to learn how to do it skillfully, and once you do, you won't want to go back. Can't beat the 5-speed for steep downhills. Put it it 1st gear low range and you will not speed up, guarantee it.

The locker is most useful when you have situations where the suspension gets crossed up and you lift, or almost lift a wheel on opposite corners. Diagonal water breaks across a steep uphill road are a good example. Without the locker, one wheel on each axle will spin and you won't go anywhere. With the locker you won't even notice the obstacle.

See this thread for some good tips on offroading with a manual.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/off-roading/225868-tips-when-off-roading-manual-transmission.html

BTW, that vehicle is easily worth $6500. You did good.

 

[Mark_BC]

SAHWHEEET!!!!! I'd buy that up here if it was available. Maybe next time I go to the US I should see if I can get one and drive it back, deal with the border hassles, there must be tons available in LA but they probably all rust there from the salt air.

 

[Mark_BC]

Its clean and he recently changed timing belt and water pump

A question: I am going to change the timing belt soon. Should I also get a new water pump while I am at it even though it isn't broken? Just some preventative maintenance.

 

[ThorInc]

A question: I am going to change the timing belt soon. Should I also get a new water pump while I am at it even though it isn't broken? Just some preventative maintenance.

Heck, yeah.

 

[RonJR]

Once you get into the timing belt and find out what a pain it is, you won't want to repeat that for a long time. Change the water pump for sure while you are in there, and anything else that looks at all iffy.

 

[tx_shooter]

Congrats on the 3rd gen! That rig should do you well for a long time.

 

[PWD4R]

Congrats on your purchase. Now go get it dirty


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[ranchdog]

5-speed isn't all that bad for rock-crawling. It's not as mindless as an auto, but kind of fun to learn how to do it skillfully, and once you do, you won't want to go back. Can't beat the 5-speed for steep downhills. Put it it 1st gear low range and you will not speed up, guarantee it.

The locker is most useful when you have situations where the suspension gets crossed up and you lift, or almost lift a wheel on opposite corners. Diagonal water breaks across a steep uphill road are a good example. Without the locker, one wheel on each axle will spin and you won't go anywhere. With the locker you won't even notice the obstacle.

See this thread for some good tips on offroading with a manual.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/off-roading/225868-tips-when-off-roading-manual-transmission.html

BTW, that vehicle is easily worth $6500. You did good.

Thanks RonJR, appreciate the link and advice. Yeah felt like I couldn't walk away from it for $6500. Others I looked at had bad tires, needed timing belt and water pumps, had 200k miles, some things didn't work and several owners, no owners manual etc. So yeah I guess we both got a good deal. Also none I looked at had the E-Locker. This one also has the clutch start also. Course the wife and daughter don't know yet its a 5 Speed LOL...the daughter needs to learn to drive a manual, its part of life..But she will like the Factory Stereo with CD play, dude cranked it up and it rocks, although I am not that much a loud stereo guy. I guess I could get my coyote call system hooked into it.....

Ranchdog

 

[ranchdog]

Ok, I have some pictures that are not sideways. She is super clean for 1998

 

[Chuckles89]

Congrats on the best 3rd gen ever made! In my opinion, a 98 is the best year because you have the new style steering wheel and regular front bumper. Then, just add some power outlets up front and a 99+ center console and you have the best of everything!

The fact that you have such low miles and an E-locker is just a bonus! My 98 5 speed with 268k miles is a lot slower than my buddy's 96 5 speed with 155k miles.

:car:

 

[kolelt]

Proper gear selection with a manual is key. The low end torque of the 3.4L is pretty good....so you don't have to "bounce" it to get it to crawl over most rocks that a fairly stock truck would encounter. Is it as smooth as the auto? No. If one isn't planning a crawl box from Marlin or Inchworm, TG, etc....then the auto is a better crawler, hands down; not as fun to drive on the road IMO....but that's subjective.

Also, I wouldn't classify the elocker as a "recovery tool". Not sure why so many folks are fond of going as far as they can in 2wd and then shifting to 4wd once they get stuck....using the elocker is the same way. If you think you'll need it, engage it. I definitely wouldn't wait to engage it until I'm already stuck.

Well, yea proper gear selection is the key. But when you have rocks, roots, stumps , it's hard to go smooth in 4 low in manual. I truly feel the need of riding the clutch when you have multiple objects that are all kind of height and size to crawl over.

 

[Sean K.]

Thanks RonJR, appreciate the link and advice. Yeah felt like I couldn't walk away from it for $6500. Others I looked at had bad tires, needed timing belt and water pumps, had 200k miles, some things didn't work and several owners, no owners manual etc. So yeah I guess we both got a good deal. Also none I looked at had the E-Locker. This one also has the clutch start also. Course the wife and daughter don't know yet its a 5 Speed LOL...the daughter needs to learn to drive a manual, its part of life..But she will like the Factory Stereo with CD play, dude cranked it up and it rocks, although I am not that much a loud stereo guy. I guess I could get my coyote call system hooked into it.....

Ranchdog

Pretty sure all the manual 4wds have the clutch cancel button...JFYI.

 

[Sean K.]

Well, yea proper gear selection is the key. But when you have rocks, roots, stumps , it's hard to go smooth in 4 low in manual. I truly feel the need of riding the clutch when you have multiple objects that are all kind of height and size to crawl over.

Ya, it is. But....if you're riding the clutch....you need more practice b/c that will wear it out in short order. If your type of wheeling requires that much clutch riding....you need a crawl box.

 

[Rockdawg84]

crawl boxes and Dual Cases Rule with 5 speeds. Then you simply need a front ARB and you will have a nearly unstoppable truck.

 

[kolelt]

Ya, it is. But....if you're riding the clutch....you need more practice b/c that will wear it out in short order. If your type of wheeling requires that much clutch riding....you need a crawl box.

I just can't understand how it's possible to crawl up rocks, without riding the clutch and not bounce around possibly damaging some suspension parts? Go real slow and you might stall. Dual transfer cases is badass though for sure. Pricey!!$

( not saying you are wrong, just want more info/help)

 

[CC Silver]

Congrats!

Update...I bought it !!!! $6500

(might seem high but compared to fixing others after you bought for $4000 and he put new $1000 mud tires on it I think its a good deal for both of us)

1998 4Runner 163K miles, leather seats, no rust, single owner, 5 speed E-Locker and Clutch start, Its clean and he recently changed timing belt and water pump plus just put a new clutch in the manual tranmission. All windows and 4WD drive works, E-Locker works. He custom ordered it to his specs, been in Texas its got No rust as I said, engine is very clean, he has most all receipts for work done on it.

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FEATURES
- 4WD 5 Speed Manual Transmission with Brand New Clutch (See Receipt Photo)
- Heavy Duty Battery, Starter, Window Wiper Reservoir (Ordered as Option)
- Heavy Duty Toyota OEM Brush Guard (Ordered as Option)
- Differential Locks (Ordered as Option)
- Clutch Start/Cancel Switch (Ordered as Option)
- Rear Heater (Ordered as Option)
- Cruise Control
- Pass Key Security
- AM/FM Stereo (with 6 Speakers)
- CD player (Single Disc)
- Air Conditioning - COLD!!
- Rear window defroster
- Power steering
- Power windows, including Rear Window
- ABS brakes (4-Wheel) - Front Disc/Rear Drum
- Dual front impact airbags
- Front anti-roll bar
- Front wheel independent suspension
- Rear anti-roll bar
- Power Moonroof
- Privacy Glass
- Leather Interior
- Power Door Locks
- Westin Nerf Bars - New
- Aluminum Alloy Wheels
- Child Safety Locks
- Tilt Wheel
- Active Seat Belts
- Roof Rack
- Towing Package
- Tonneau Cargo Cover
- New BF Goodrich Mud Terrain T/A Tires. Paid >$1000.00 ~6,300 Miles Ago

Was that the one in Cypress off the Houston craigslist?

If so , I just saw the add. LOL


Britt

 

[Sean K.]

I just can't understand how it's possible to crawl up rocks, without riding the clutch and not bounce around possibly damaging some suspension parts? Go real slow and you might stall. Dual transfer cases is badass though for sure. Pricey!!$

( not saying you are wrong, just want more info/help)

As I said earlier....the 3.4L has very good low end torque. If the rocks are around basketball size, the key is to let the truck idle (with your foot off the clutch). Ya, it *could* stall....but that's exactly what the clutch cancel button is for. While it *could* stall, I've been very pleasantly surprised how low this engine will idle down to and still run while going over decent sized rocks.

The place I go shooting at almost weekly at times has a dry (usually) wash littered with basketball and larger sized rocks (which keeps most people from going there). I lurch a little here and there, but I just idle through with the locker on.

Lemme guess...you don't have a locker. ***EDIT*** Just saw your build thread and that you have an elocker now****

Do you ever smell burnt clutch while going over these rocks you're talking about?

If so, it's a pretty good sign you should look into a crawl box and at least one locker for the type of wheeling you're doing.