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Sisente
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Why is it Bernie or Hillary supporters find it necessary to protest Trump/Cruz/etc rallies, but not the other way around? Trump/Cruz/etc supporters simply stay away from the rallies, and are not causing problems.
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Because he is promoting hatred, intolerance and, in some cases, violence. Which is dangerous in a way that extends beyond political policy. On what do you base your statement that there are no Trump supporters at dem rallies?
BTW he wasn't protesting, none of his signage was supporting either candidate. He was simply offering hugs.
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RunninInGA
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I'll agree with you in terms of DJT, but that doesn't explain Cruz or Kasich based on what attention I've given the news lately. Sanders/Clinton supports seem to preach tolerance for everyone but they, themselves, have a hard time practicing their own teachings - there is no tolerance for people that do not think like them or agree with their policies. Disagree and they seem to want to shut you up or shut you down.
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Examples? I think you will find it hard to compare quantifiably between the two sides. Even still, simply glossing over Trump like he isn't the number one candidate and then simply moving on and trying to equate dems/republicans ignoring the leading candidate on one side is a bit naive. Tolerance does not mean you have to agree with what is being said, or even like it, just don't punch, pepper spray, or otherwise physically attack the opposing view.
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Sisente
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By countering Trump's violent speech with hate speech and violence of your own is hypocrisy at its finest.
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Sisente
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The rally didn't even happen in Chicago, and it turned violent anyway
Trump Rally in Chicago Postponed as Protesters, Supporters Clash in the Streets | KTLA
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1engineer
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Seriously, where do you live?
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Did you have anything to add to the discussion that isn't personal?
1engineer
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Just curious is all. You have "Canada" next to your avatar for the world to see. If that is the case then you have absolutely no vote in any election in the US. Of course you may have an opinion but yours counts even less than the rest of us who actually can vote and make a 1/330,000,000th difference.
Don't take this personally but sometimes I am amazed by the interest shown in our politics and religion by people from other countries. I'm pretty sure 99% of the US citizens will not know the name of your Prime Minister and 99.9% couldn't describe your government even roughly. So why the interest? Because we are so big and strong and a world leader? Just curious as I said before.
The truth is, while our federal politicians feel the need to involve ourselves in other country's business, the people as a rule would rather we stayed out of everyone's hair.
Because of my vocation I have to know details about Canada (Brazil, Germany, China) and many other parts of the world. The economy, the political climate and their manufacturing. I read a lot of information to better educate myself on the places we do business. Given that tidbit I would never, ever interject my opinion to the citizens of that country because, even though I may know a bit about their society I don't live there nor do I understand the nuances and implications that only a "local" would understand.
That's my opinion and no it's not personal. Just curious as to why you post in US political threads is all.
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I would argue that Canada and the US have a unique relationship that is not really comparable to any other two countries. The course of events in our country, as well as the course of world events, are undoubtedly tied to what happens in the US.
I could give you many examples of people I know personally who's job and livelihood is tied to what happens south of the border, so yea, we do have some interest in how things play out. Can you honestly say if your job, career, or possibly entire industry could depend on the events happening in another country you wouldn't be watching with interest? I hope you consider yourself lucky to not be in that position.
Also, I think its only human nature that when constantly bombarded by these issues and debates on television, radio, internet, and even in person, to want to voice an opinion. Just as its only human nature to feel offended when someone goes out of their way to remind you that your opinion doesn't matter.
I have access to all the same news sources as American's do, I am on the same internet, I hear the same debates on the same issues. Do you really think that no one outside the US could possibly have anything of value to add to the debate? Especially in an election where universal health coverage and socialist ideas are on the agenda? No great ideas and nothing of value has ever come from outside the US?
Why do you feel the need to go after me personally instead of sticking to the issues being discussed?
PS- Did you just make up statistics?
I could give you many examples of people I know personally who's job and livelihood is tied to what happens south of the border, so yea, we do have some interest in how things play out. Can you honestly say if your job, career, or possibly entire industry could depend on the events happening in another country you wouldn't be watching with interest? I hope you consider yourself lucky to not be in that position.
Also, I think its only human nature that when constantly bombarded by these issues and debates on television, radio, internet, and even in person, to want to voice an opinion. Just as its only human nature to feel offended when someone goes out of their way to remind you that your opinion doesn't matter.
I have access to all the same news sources as American's do, I am on the same internet, I hear the same debates on the same issues. Do you really think that no one outside the US could possibly have anything of value to add to the debate? Especially in an election where universal health coverage and socialist ideas are on the agenda? No great ideas and nothing of value has ever come from outside the US?
Why do you feel the need to go after me personally instead of sticking to the issues being discussed?
PS- Did you just make up statistics?
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1engineer
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Trust me, if you started a thread on Trudeau I wouldn't even open it up. Why? It's none of my business and any opinion I could have on any issue that surrounds him would be useless, because I don't live there and don't know all the bits necessary to add any information of consequence. On top of that I can't do anything about it even if I did have an opinion. At least here I get my one vote.
Look, here is my opinion and one that has become increasingly prevalent among people I talk to on this subject:
Whoever wins this presidential election this year is meaningless. The choice of candidates on both sides are terrible. As bad as Trump or Cruz is the other side's choices of Clinton or Sanders is just a different kind of bad. Regardless on who wins there will be massive issues and problems and gridlock, just different problems because of ideology of the parties.
I have no more beef with you than I would have with any of my liberal friends, and I have a bunch. I am a bit different in the fact that I don't support a liberal or conservative platform but believe a mixture of both is correct. Just curious why a Canadian would even think about getting involved in a debate that has no direct bearing on them.
Yes, I made up statistics lol. Pretty sure they are probably on the low side though...
Oh, I do watch Heartland though! That is a good, wholesome show.
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This is where the disconnect is.
It does affect Canadians.
If you really need examples I would point to the keystone pipeline, which undoubtedly affected the oil industry here in western Canada. The softwood lumber issues years ago also had a significant effect on the area of Canada where I live.
You could also look at things like regulations. On vehicles for example, if adopted by the US, they also tend to be adopted here. US policy on some of these issues could affect what kind of vehicle I'm driving in ten years, or from where I get my energy.
This isn't even getting into world politics or the cultural similarities.
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wallytoo
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there's no disconnect. the politics here might well affect you and your fellow canadians, but none of you have a vote. if you would like to participate in u.s.-elections, feel free to go through the process to become a citizen of the u.s. otherwise, your opinion does indeed matter less than mine, and any other voting us citizen, on matters of u.s. politics.
jwkilgore
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