Asking for forgiveness and acceptance

03_4x4Runner

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I have cut down the 5th gen since they came out and praised the 4th gen V8.
Well I traded in my 03 V8 last week on a 2014 Limited 4x4 with 3rd row seats. I also traded in my 2011 Avalon. My wife and I are getting down to one vehicle and the Avalon while great on long trips did not suit or needs as well as a 4runner. My 03 was just getting old enough that I wanted to start fresh. It only cost me a little over $10k after trading in both vehicles. I have never traded in a vehicle before but I did not feel like dealing with selling two vehicles and I thought they were fair with me. The old 4runner had intermittent speedometer not working issues, transfer case actuator leak ($2500 fix), needed new tires and the clear coat on the roof was starting to deteriorate. The salesman I bought the Avalon from sent me a email several weeks ago advertising a new 4runner they had discounted (list $45,443 down to $41,500). I have not drove the new 4runner much yet but it is starting to grow on me. I like everything so far except the sluggish acceleration on initial takeoff and the excess engine noise. My 03 V8 has instant torque and would really set you back in the seat while sounding supper smooth. My V8 sounded like it was just playing while the 2014 sounds like it does not really want you to push it that hard. The 3.5 in the Avalon could smoke the front tires but the new 2014 4runner feels like it could not spin the tires on loose rocks. I just have to remind myself not to pull out in front of someone quickly and expect it to go. OK I will quit complaining. I love the smart key on the 2014. I still find myself reaching in my pocket for the key when I approach it. It handles and corners really nice and basically drives about like my 03 did.
 
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Haha, I drove a 2014 before I bought my 03 actually. I know what you mean by the way it feels, but you really just have to get used to the gas pedal. It doesn't actually have less power (in fact it has more), it's just meant to discourage using that power by the throttle map. Once you get used to that and realize that it's not as much of dog as you think it is, it's not so bad.

I have to admit that the 2014's look has really grown on my too as my neighbor bought one last month and I see it everyday sitting in his driveway.
 
I can relate as I turned in my 05 V8 for a 2011 SR5 and just recently traded that in for a 14 Trail Premium. You will get used to the V6 and when you do you will realize that its plenty powerful. Happy trails!
 
Just kidding, enjoy the new ride.

Still have the jeep?

No Jeep, I gave it to my son about 2 years ago. My wife was having back problems and it rode to rough off road, also she had a hard time getting into it. I still like the crudeness of it though and drive it some when visiting my son. New vehicle are to hi tech for old timers like me. Its a Jeep thing.
 
You have been a thorn in my side, the bane of my existence, the.. Ok, I will stop lol. Congrats! Do me a favor: take it out to a non busy highway and from a complete stop, floor it. Even better use the manual shift option and take it up close to redline and shift. You my friend will be surprised. The 5th gens just play in a different area of the RPM band than a V8 does. Enjoy and no, you have to keep your loser user name haha. Have fun and welcome!
 
You have been a thorn in my side, the bane of my existence, the.. Ok, I will stop lol. Congrats! Do me a favor: take it out to a non busy highway and from a complete stop, floor it. Even better use the manual shift option and take it up close to redline and shift. You my friend will be surprised. The 5th gens just play in a different area of the RPM band than a V8 does. Enjoy and no, you have to keep your loser user name haha. Have fun and welcome!

I was waiting for your response. Yes it does run fine once moving it is just the initial launch. I always use the sport mode and always did in my 4th gen. It is hilly where I live and have no use for overdrive around town.

One more question. I took it out in some sand dunes yesterday. On my 4th gen I locked the center dif and it let the engine spin the tires fast without the traction control kicking in. I have not figured out the proper use of the a-trac and vsc off or whatever it is called buttons. The owners manual is not much help. Should I be pushing both buttons in sand. I need the engine speed high with the tires spinning fast to get through without the system trying to put the brakes on. What about general off road?
It is 105 degrees here today so I did not get to experiment much. I want to find some used 17 inch rims and get some all terrain tires for off road use to keep the original wheels looking good. I am going to be heading to Flagstaff soon where it is cooler to get some off road miles on it. Only have 98 miles on it so far and had it off road twice to try it out. Those 20" wheels need to go so I can air down the tires safely.
 
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Congratulations! Getting used to accessing the powerband takes a little while to get used to. I used to think it didn't have enough juice. It has plenty.
 
I was waiting for your response. Yes it does run fine once moving it is just the initial launch. I always use the sport mode and always did in my 4th gen. It is hilly where I live and have no use for overdrive around town.

One more question. I took it out in some sand dunes yesterday. On my 4th gen I locked the center dif and it let the engine spin the tires fast without the traction control kicking in. I have not figured out the proper use of the a-trac and vsc off or whatever it is called buttons. The owners manual is not much help. Should I be pushing both buttons in sand. I need the engine speed high with the tires spinning fast to get through without the system trying to put the brakes on. What about general off road?
It is 105 degrees here today so I did not get to experiment much. I want to find some used 17 inch rims and get some all terrain tires for off road use to keep the original wheels looking good. I am going to be heading to Flagstaff soon where it is cooler to get some off road miles on it. Only have 98 miles on it so far and had it off road twice to try it out. Those 20" wheels need to go so I can air down the tires safely.

VSC "off" will give you what you need in sand. Have fun!
 
I just came back from NorCal and have to pass thru Angeles National Forest to get home. On the way back, I was able to make it up hill efficiently and with the Eco mode light on for about 95% of the way. That and with only the first bar of the Eco gauge lit! That speak volumes of the torque it has available cause it goes from sea level to a guestimate of 2,500-3,000 feet. I know it gets as high as 9,000 in some areas. Anyways, it climbed the grades with relative ease, still surprising me after 3 years of ownership. Also, I had about 200 lbs in the cargo area and 2 adult passengers.

Seriously, the 5th Gen has sufficient power.
 
I do quite a bit of mountain driving here in CO, and can say that while I'm never worried about the 4runner making it over a pass, it certainly has to work for it...

Granted I came from a WRX :eyebrows:

And welcome [MENTION=336]03_4x4Runner[/MENTION]!
 
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I just came back from NorCal and have to pass thru Angeles National Forest to get home. On the way back, I was able to make it up hill efficiently and with the Eco mode light on for about 95% of the way. That and with only the first bar of the Eco gauge lit! That speak volumes of the torque it has available cause it goes from sea level to a guestimate of 2,500-3,000 feet. I know it gets as high as 9,000 in some areas. Anyways, it climbed the grades with relative ease, still surprising me after 3 years of ownership. Also, I had about 200 lbs in the cargo area and 2 adult passengers.

Seriously, the 5th Gen has sufficient power.

so you climbed the grapevine in "D" without downshifting? How fast were you going up and over? you think it would be easier on the motor if it was shifted into 4th gear instead of the OD 5th? I have yet taken mine over the hill yet. We will be going to San Francisco this summer, so I am itching to find out.
 

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