Best speculation of a 2023 6th generation I have seen

[Anthony88]

Oddly enough this is what David from Automotive press is reporting. Not that his channel it has value necessarily.

I’ve been waiting for the 6th gen for a long time, so this is pleasant news

 

[mannyz]

Just watched this with wifey a few days ago. I hope he's right about most of it! Not a fan of the tail lights, but overall I think there are solid upgrades.

 

[Colorado buff]

I have stopped posting generally on forums going forward, but only do so now to correct myself.

New claims are coming out that the 4Runner will once again be redesigned for 2023 model year next year, as known from February 2020 to June 2021. Although I am skeptical of these claims, the sources of this recent information are not sketchy enough to be ignored. They seem just as credible.

My bigger question is, why any of my previous information has been misleading? I have seen 2024 in some ways, so it's conflicting information.

I can only wait and see, as I don't like asking too many questions to other professionals, not within my social circle or beholden to their own NDAs as well.

Secondly, Toyota have not made any announcements regarding TMMGT production for 4Runner, despite some charts listing it there for January 2024 start of production.

Sounds like Tahara will be producing this vehicle still, because TMMTX in Texas has not been announced as a production site either.

There are no spy shots of this alleged 2023 model, but it doesn't mean anything, as that can be manipulated for marketing purposes.

2024 Tacoma mules are running about, for both marketing and general testing purposes. (NOT PROTOTYPES)

Tundra program mules, first appeared on camera in January 2019, but no prototypes until December 2020. Generally it is ideal not to expose production styling test vehicles until 1 year out from market.

By now, you would expect to hearing and seeing something more tangible than just random guesses.

Not sure what's happening, stay tuned. Whatever the 2023 4Runner is, that's due for sale in October 2022 per scheduling. Just doesn't make sense for it to be a redesign.

Totally agree. When the bronco was released in 2021 there was a ton of speculation and a board like this with a lot of posts and pictures from 2016 onward. Toyota has nothing. Love the engineers mock up, but Toyota is either tight with the leaks or they aren’t anywhere close to ready with a new model.

 

[qs933]

RE: spy shots.

If we go back to the 2010 4Runner, C&D ran these spy shots in July 2009, just a few months before the 5th Gen was revealed in September 2009.

2010 Toyota 4Runner Loses V-8, Gets Base Four-Cylinder Option

Autoblog ran this blurry shot in August 2009:

Spy Shots: Toyota 4Runner snagged ahead of Texas debut

Other than that, I can’t find anything earlier where the 4Runner was spotted. I could’ve sworn there were other photos taken back then, but that was (unbelievably) over 12 years ago. My memory is not that great.

So, seems like there could be credence in it being produced in Japan and a 2023 MY launch. Or, put another way, the lack of spy shots at this point doesn’t necessarily DQ a 2023 launch if 4Runner production remains in Japan, as the other Toyota models that have been captured in spy shots a year or more ahead have all been North American factory-produced vehicles.

Side note: it’s interesting reading the comments back in 2009 and the reaction to the spy shots. Some thought it was a sign Toyota was on the verge of failing. Who would have thought 12 years later, Toyota is basically printing money and selling every 4Runner it can make.

 

[Colorado buff]

RE: spy shots.

If we go back to the 2010 4Runner, C&D ran these spy shots in July 2009, just a few months before the 5th Gen was revealed in September 2009.

2010 Toyota 4Runner Loses V-8, Gets Base Four-Cylinder Option

Autoblog ran this blurry shot in August 2009:

Spy Shots: Toyota 4Runner snagged ahead of Texas debut

Other than that, I can’t find anything earlier where the 4Runner was spotted. I could’ve sworn there were other photos taken back then, but that was (unbelievably) over 12 years ago. My memory is not that great.

So, seems like there could be credence in it being produced in Japan and a 2023 MY launch. Or, put another way, the lack of spy shots at this point doesn’t necessarily DQ a 2023 launch if 4Runner production remains in Japan, as the other Toyota models that have been captured in spy shots a year or more ahead have all been North American factory-produced vehicles.

Side note: it’s interesting reading the comments back in 2009 and the reaction to the spy shots. Some thought it was a sign Toyota was on the verge of failing. Who would have thought 12 years later, Toyota is basically printing money and selling every 4Runner it can make.

You make a very good point. If manufacturing happens in Japan then probably less leaks.

 

[-E5J-]

I think we're just bored. It's been 12 years with the same model. Daydreaming about something new and modern makes it feel a little less depressing when we see Ford throwing down a double locked, TT V6 with a 10 speed, low gearing, long travel, bronco on 37s. Jeep throwing a big V8 in the Wrangler with 35s and almost 1000 RTI. And Toyota basically is telling us they won't sell us a Land Cruiser without a Lexus badge and $100k price tag and then best we might get a turbo 4 cyl and auto headlights after 15 years. If we ask really nice they'll toss in a 6 speed transmission and some 32" tires for good measure.

Lol, mine came with 32s and auto headlights…. Just saying…

What I’d LOVE is the ventilated ac seats… because where I live, we have 10 months of summer and two months of what I refer to as “spring-fall” weather…

I really appreciate the solid logic from all sides here… not kidding… as others have mentioned, reading a physicist and and engineer debate valid points is absolutely engaging.

From a layperson’s perspective, a Range Rover with a larger towing capacity (we’re ignoring reliability of course) and a seemingly small tongue weight capacity would suggest to me that Range Rover expects an extremely well balanced load on a tandem axle trailer, so it it can pull like hell, just not sag its ass…. But that’s just my common sense kicking in.

If I’m being critical of the 4Runner, I’d say the Pro (and a few other trim models) should come with full aluminum under armor past the t-case and optional actual rock sliders to protect the body (not crappy overpriced “predator step bars” bolted to the body. Also, A/C seats as an add-on option would be awesome. Full aluminum skids and sliders should at least be an option comparable to aftermarket prices equal to or better than American made after market options… Not excessively overpriced… practical. Who wouldn’t pay a little extra to protect past the transfer case and the body as I and so many others have done?

Over all, I’m a huge 4Runner lover, as you can tell… it’s my 4th one, and the best one yet.

New model years concern me… bugs and all that. I’d buy one on about the third year of a new model… which explains my buying years…

That’s just me though. Merry Christmas to all…

Good read.

 

[John in NC]

Anybody seen this article? Electric truck and "baby landcruiser"? May give some hints regarding upcoming styling/ designs-

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While I'm at it, I ran across this a couple years ago and thought it was cool. Not that Toyota will produce it but fun to imagine-

 

[michalik.piotr6837]

What’s missing is the 4runner. Toyota wants to be all electric by 2030. So will they drop the 4unner? If so, when? Are they working on an electric one?

 

[TexasFunRunner]

What’s missing is the 4runner. Toyota wants to be all electric by 2030. So will they drop the 4unner? If so, when? Are they working on an electric one?

Only rumors so far are for a hybrid one, much better for middle of nowhere driving.

 

[Colorado buff]

Only rumors so far are for a hybrid one, much better for middle of nowhere driving.

Agree, they must be thinking hybrid, based on their line up going forward.

 

[Blackwatch]

Will the 4Runner survive past this generation? I don't know if an electric 4runner will sell. Or when they say 100% electric by 2030 are they including hybrids?

 

[TexasFunRunner]

Will the 4Runner survive past this generation? I don't know if an electric 4runner will sell. Or when they say 100% electric by 2030 are they including hybrids?

No, hybrids are not considered electric, further, the 100% number only applies to Lexus in North America, not Toyota. However, since Cybertruck, Rivian and Hummer's are all electric, I would think there will be an Electric 4Runner to compete in that market, based on it's Lexus GX cousin, that will become electric, if we read the tea leaves correctly.

For its luxury brand Lexus, Toyota aims to have battery electric vehicles account for 100% of vehicle sales in Europe, North America, and China by 2030 and globally by 2035.
Toyota CEO announces automaker'''s battery EV plans

Of course, we could see a 4Runner EV even sooner if they base it off of the EV Pickup they showed.

Toyota’s Electric Pickup Truck Could Look a Lot Like This

| The Drive

 

[Andrew90]

Great video, I actually followed the channel on youtube and they have a new video on the topic of 2023 4Runner:

FIVE REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD WAIT FOR 2023 TOYOTA 4RUNNER - ENGINEER'S LATEST PREDICTIONS FOR 2023/24 - YouTube

Something to look forward to

 

[Blackwatch]

LATEST PREDICTIONS FOR 2023 TOYOTA 4RUNNER - UPDATED RENDERS & TIMIN - YouTube

Latest 4Runner video from David. He still says it's being released next fall.

 

[Colorado buff]

LATEST PREDICTIONS FOR 2023 TOYOTA 4RUNNER - UPDATED RENDERS & TIMIN - YouTube

Latest 4Runner video from David. He still says it's being released next fall.

Video is fantastic. The front end of the land cruiser styled 4Runner is beautiful. Makes me want to wait for it. I would like to see at least a hybrid version as this vehicle will probably be 50K usd. A nicer cleaner interior. And a few different options like the new bronco, sr5, a premium model and an off road model like trd.
Roll up back window. And better frame materials so it doesn’t rust like the gen 3’s.

 

[Blackwatch]

Video is fantastic. The front end of the land cruiser styled 4Runner is beautiful. Makes me want to wait for it. I would like to see at least a hybrid version as this vehicle will probably be 50K usd. A nicer cleaner interior. And a few different options like the new bronco, sr5, a premium model and an off road model like trd.
Roll up back window. And better frame materials so it doesn’t rust like the gen 3’s.

Agreed, too bad the front ends aren't interchangeable like the old fox body Mustangs. I would take the front clip off the Land Cruiser style and put it on a 5th gen.

 

[balong48]

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/...Courtesy-of-GR86.org_.jpg?fit=around|1000:625
This image proves accurate again.

New Sequoia teased. The Next Big Thing from Toyota is on the Horizon - Toyota USA Newsroom

I still don't think we will see a 4Runner this year though.

 

[Jetboy]

Early pics of the new sequoia look to me a lot like the LC300. It's pretty likely it's just a scaled up LC300. Might even look better? I really hope it keeps the LC styling up front. If it does - it'll be a good seller.

Unless it's $100k. Then it'll sell just like the LC200 did.

 

[024RunnerSE]

That's the new 4Runner.

 

[TexasFunRunner]

That's the new 4Runner.

How can you be sure of that, insight please?