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I just got a 2013 Trail and need to upgrade the tires. With the stock suspension height and wheels, will I be able to upsize?

BFG T/A KOs in either 275/7017 or 285/7017 are what I'm looking at for balance between off road and streetability. Discount tire is convinced that neither would work and would rub.
 
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275s are the best balance and will not rub. Firestone destination ATs will be a better street tire with equal offroad grip (despite looks). BFGs do look really good though.
 
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Get ready to hear about how you should search before asking about it and what not. You have just committed a major offense in this forums etiquette, he, he.

But I am a newb myself, with a 2 week old 2013 TE. I was also looking for answers on tire questions but after reading a few topic answers when this question was made, I didn't dare to ask a question.

Here is what I concluded after searching through this forum. For stock height, with no mods, for a daily driver, 275's should be your best bet. According with some, 285's are doable but you might have a little rub even after trimming mud guards and other trim.

Personally I considered the added drop in MPG and added weight. And went with the BFG T/A's in 275. For a good tire size calculator to see the effects of changing tire size in terms of added height and other facts try 1010tire. Good luck! I'll post pics when mine come in!!
 
I was running BFG A/Ts in 275/70R17 before the lift and they are fine, fit great and allow good articulation without rubbing. You could fit 285s with no lift but there would be some rubbing if you go off pavement.

I have 47,XXX miles on my BFGs as of now and it looks like they will see me to 65-70,000 miles with no troubles. I have rotated every 10,000 miles and run ~ 35 psi.

I have run BFGs for a long time on Nissans, Toyotas, and others and have always been impressed with them on and off road and their ability to get alot of mileage out of the tires.
 
Thanks. I'll probably go for the 275s, and have also been looking at the Firestones.


FWIW.

Over the last 10 tears we have bought and built more than 30 Toyotas. I have ran every tire you can imagine, from BFG, MAxxis, Hankook, Toyo, exc.


Then one day I got the chance to go to a tire training class with Hankook tires.
I do not run Hankook tire any more, for no particular reason. But I did learn something important.

Some tires (including BFG) use a tire compound with a very low silicate percentage in the compound. Instead they are mostly natural rubber. Why does this matter? Glad you asked; If you remember the old BFG ATs you may remember them lasting for ever. You may also remember seeing them crack pretty bad between the tread. The natural rubber is harder, it last longer thus you get more mileage out of them. The trade off is more noise, more cracking and hard rubber that does not grip very well in the rain.

even the BFG KM2 (an awesome tire by every standard) is a compound tire. However the version that is avail to the general public is less than 5% silicate. You will get ALOT of road noise with them as well as poorer traction on wet ground. They do offer a high silicate version of this tire called the "red label" but you have to be special to get them. Same story with the old MTRs.

For the general public the higher silicate tire are found in brands like Cooper, Hankook, and ProComp (made by cooper).

you will get a few thousand less miles, but in return you get a more quite, better grip, and softer tire. Interco makes a tire called the Irok, it is also I high silicate tire, but it is VERY high and does not last long on the road.

if you have questions or want more details, please feel free to PM me. I am not trying to hijack your thread, and if I keep going on about how to find out what compound you want it will do just that.
 
Also keep in mind Load Range. The All-Terrain LT275/70R17 are only available in E load range - these are quite a bit heavier than the 265/70R17 in C load range (close to 10lbs ea!). I believe 285's are available in either C or E...

I was also on the fence with 275 E's, or 265 C's, and chose the 265 C's to maintain my overall gearing, to add as little extra un-sprung weight as possible, and to avoid the possibility of rubbing...

265's on stock rims as a reference:

LT265/70R17's on Stock SR5 17" Rims (w/o Wheel Spacers):
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...you-do-your-5th-gen-today-64.html#post1261329


Same tires with 1" Wheel Spacers:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...er-owners-picture-thread-150.html#post1271386


I've since added the 5100 0.85" front lift plus a 10mm rear driver's side spring spacer (for lean compensation) which also raised the rear a smidgen - I still think the 265's look fine. My MPG didn't take too much of a hit, and I didn't loose any effective torque as I would with larger tires...

Food for thought :cool:
 

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