BMW Partnership May Extend To Toyota SUV's

[UnderFire]

Been going downhill for years now. There's tons of examples. Root cause of most of it is the reigns being handed over to Toyota USA. I don't trust anything coming through the works at this point very much.

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[mnofpeace]

If said before, then flame away...

but...why cant toyota simply make more, and use the 3.5L V6's that are in the Lexus (and Avalon) vehicles...it makes about 302hp already, it a tried and true engine for them, and its...wait for it...THIERS?!?!?!? Adjust the stroke for a little more torque down long, it may drop to 300 or so hp, and go from there.

BMW...why use them. is the largest earth-bound automaker tired of making autos, and engines, and such?

 

[LandCruiser]

If said before, then flame away...

but...why cant toyota simply make more, and use the 3.5L V6's that are in the Lexus (and Avalon) vehicles...it makes about 302hp already, it a tried and true engine for them, and its...wait for it...THIERS?!?!?!? Adjust the stroke for a little more torque down long, it may drop to 300 or so hp, and go from there.

BMW...why use them. is the largest earth-bound automaker tired of making autos, and engines, and such?

Transverse mount engine.

 

[itr1275]

Fake news

Sorry, I'm calling BS on this one. What is the source of the grammatically (horribly) incorrect JPG posted in the supra forums? It looks like it was auto translated from Bulgarian or something?

The towing capacity of this model is 5,000 pounds, and buyers can upgrade an RWD with full-time AWD. However, the most impressing specs are these TRD Pro Model is offering. The downside is the fuel economy. Current 4Runner returns 18 mpg combined.
...

The engine Tacoma is borrowing can pair that gearbox.

Pure garbage. No self respecting journalist would publish this nonsensical gibberish.

Toyota uses the 4.0 litre motor because it's inexpensive and reliable. If they cared about performance (which the don't) they would not have detuned it.

 

[RandyBobandy]

Transverse mount engine.

The 3.5 in most of the Lexus models that use it is a longitudinal mount

 

[KLH4R3]

No thanks!! There's a reason I don't buy anything but Toyota's and certainly not BMW's.

 

[Jetboy]

If said before, then flame away...

but...why cant toyota simply make more, and use the 3.5L V6's that are in the Lexus (and Avalon) vehicles...it makes about 302hp already, it a tried and true engine for them, and its...wait for it...THIERS?!?!?!? Adjust the stroke for a little more torque down long, it may drop to 300 or so hp, and go from there.

BMW...why use them. is the largest earth-bound automaker tired of making autos, and engines, and such?

I thought the same thing > why couldn't Toyota have just made an IS350 coupe with a more Toyota skin? If toyota can make a $45k IS350 with 310hp and awd, can't it make a $45k Supra version of the same platform? And a $60k version with either the 5.0L v8 or the twin turbo 3.5? It's crazy that they couldn't modify their own platform barely at all to make the supra in house.

Or just build a stripper version of the RC-F. It's $65k in Lexus trim. Make it $50k in Toyota trim and drop 500lbs of weight and it'd be a rocket ship in its price range. Throw in a $5k TRD Supercharger option that bumps up to 600hp/600tq, and they'd actually sell a shit ton of them too.

And Toyota's 3.5 turbo 6 is a lot more powerful than the BMW I6 that it's currently using. So it would probably be a faster car as well in the higher trim models.

What all of this tells me is that Toyota doesn't give a shit about the Supra. That's really all it is. The LC500 - is fawking awesome. Toyota cares about he LC500 and it shows. I'd much much rather have the LC500.