Brand X 4th Gen Ladder Finally Here

i just noticed that your rear spoiler looks different then mine a little bit. mine seems bigger i dont know if its just the pics?

:iagree: My spoiler is difinitely bigger and higher. Probably came with the 06 refresh? :shrug:

Yeah there is a hump in the 05 or 06 spoiler so it isn't flat. There is a thread somewhere around here called "Gotta have that hump" where Jason Burtman was trying to get together a group buy for those types of spoilers; he has some comparison shots of the two different spoilers. I'm not sure this ladder would work with those spoilers or if there is another ladder for those.

how sturdy is this ladder?

It seems very sturdy so far, my friend and I (both ~200 lbs) have both climbed up to the roof a few times. My roommate's sister was kinda swinging around on it like monkey bars yesterday and it didn't shake or budge.

edit - it seems like it could be made to work with that spoiler with a couple of washers or spacers, but that would probably also make it less sturdy.
 
anyone who is wondering about this ladder still. i received a email back from gobi saying that they just added the item to their line and the coast is $199.95 including FEDEX ground shipping. i replied asking about the larger hump spoiler if it would work and am waiting on word back
 
yea i think i just realized that because i sent the email first when you recieved your ladder and they just replied. i figure if i dont hear nothing today ill just call them tomorrow.
 
Are you still running this rack on your 4r? And if so, how is it holding up? I'm trying to find one for my 4r.
 
yea i think i just realized that because i sent the email first when you recieved your ladder and they just replied. i figure if i dont hear nothing today ill just call them tomorrow.

Did you ever get an answer? I don't have a rear spoiler, so a ladder without the big hump would look more streamlined for me.
 
Are you still running this rack on your 4r? And if so, how is it holding up? I'm trying to find one for my 4r.

Yeah I still have it, it's great. It does cause you to lose some gas mileage but I didn't notice a big increase in wind noise. I use it all the time for all large pieces of wood and other things all the time and haven't had any trouble yet from it. I've also stood up on the roof and walked around several times, so it's strong.

I might go with the whitson metalworks rack now due to how much cheaper it is. Can't say much for quality comparison since I haven't owned a WMW though.

Did you ever get an answer? I don't have a rear spoiler, so a ladder without the big hump would look more streamlined for me.

There are 3 versions of the ladder, I have the original version for the flat spoiler. There are also versions with no hump and no spoiler altogether.

t4rman has the no spoiler version on his and zstampe had the hump version on his. If you search for their builds on here you should be able to get a good idea of how they look.
 
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Damn, I meant to ask if you were still running the LADDER on your truck, not the roof rack. I just installed my WMW rack yesterday and its awesome, but I'm searching for a ladder for the rear hatch. No spoiler version.
 
Damn, I meant to ask if you were still running the LADDER on your truck, not the roof rack. I just installed my WMW rack yesterday and its awesome, but I'm searching for a ladder for the rear hatch. No spoiler version.

Yep, still got it. I think I'm going to have to replace the struts though.

I took it off for a while because it slows the struts but I put it back on several months ago. The struts will hold it up no problem, but getting it all the way open is slow if it happens. Push it all the way with your hand and it stays though. Some people with newer 4runners (i.e. newer struts) haven't had problems with it.
 
Does the ladder cause you a loss in mpg? Or just the rack? I looked at gobi site and they don't give a price for the rack, do they still sell it?
 
Does the ladder cause you a loss in mpg? Or just the rack? I looked at brand x site and they don't give a price for the rack, do they still sell it?
I wouldn't imagine the ladder the causes any loss in MPG, if it did I didn't notice.

I would PM RiDE for info about the brand x, you can call or email them but they're very slow. RiDE is an authorized dealer and (from what I've heard) provides much better communication.

Another option is the Whitson Metalworks rack. It's similar to the brand x but built by a member here for a little more than half as much as the brand x. You'd still have to order the ladder from brand x if you want a ladder, but you're not going to get a huge break on the ladder for ordering the rack from brand x anyway.

Yes I have the brand x and yes I'm promoting another rack. I had a poor overall experience with brand x, primarily due to communication, and won't promote them.
 
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Was there any drilling necessary? How involved is the installation?
-thanks

No drilling, the first post describes the installation. Pretty easy. Pictures are too large due to ImageShack's change in formatting since I uploaded them, but I believe the entire process is shown.
 
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