Cleaning Your Car

This is a great thread. My wife has a 2014 4Runner and we're always struggling to keep it clean. Thanks for all the great info.
 
Washed the car with Chemical guys citrus soap, clay bar, then applied Klasse sealant, a coat of carnauba wax finished it off with some Sonax. Lot harder to get the white paint pop.
 
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Window Washing

Best thing to use for washing windows is called an ecloth. You can find on amazon for about $20. the only way to get a streak free shine.:dancin:
 
I find that Armor All works well for my roof rack, running boards, fender flares, and tires on my 2000 4Runner. Now that I have a new 2016 4Runner with painted wheels, I wonder what I should clean them with. Any ideas?
 
Not sure if anyone has heard of this, but I had a crazy old man who said he used to detail cars for a living tell me do this to make tire shine.

He said after the tires were scrubbed clean and dry. Mix a Spray bottle with half plastic adhesion promoter and half Armor All spray on and wipe it, supposedly the adhesion promoter grips the side wall of the tire and keeps the armor all on for a long time.

He swore it would work but I haven't tried it yet. I always hated having Armor All slung all over the side of my car.

He may have been on something I dunno.

I would not use armor all on tires, at least not in the southwest it cracks your tires, its best to not put anything on them. Well that's my 2 cents worth
 
I would not use armor all on tires, at least not in the southwest it cracks your tires, its best to not put anything on them. Well that's my 2 cents worth

The original Armor All formula for their dressing contained dimethal silicone fluids (DMS; solvent based). By around the late 80's they changed that product to a water based formula containing polydimethylsiloxane (PDMS). Many dressings/protectants these days use the same PDMS component.

The bad reputation AA received back in the 80's has stuck with them even today with some folks. The solvents (DMS - dimethal silicone fluids) in their product were blamed for accelerating the release of plasticizers from vinyl and rubber components causing those surfaces to "dry out".

In either case, the AA formulation in their basic tire product since the late 80's/early 90's is now water based like many other dressings/protectants today. It contains the same PDMS component that popular products like 303 Aerospace Protectant use. ....which is generally safe for vinyl, rubber and plastics.

I have heard individuals over the years and even manufactures still making claims about Armor All ruining these surfaces but I believe it is based on their old reputation rather than any current testing/analysis or fact.
 
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Does anyone else use rainwater to wash their trucks? This is my setup. Kinda crude but it works for me
 
Protectant for exterior rubber/plastic trim

Hello all:

I have wondered how people are able to apply protectant (I usually use 303) to the exterior rubber molding and trim around the windows and doors without leaving a mess on the car itself? The protectant usually ends up on the windows. Then, if I clean the windows it seems like I clear off more of the protectant than I like.......

Any advice on techniques or sequence here?

Thanks, Steve.
 
Does anyone else use rainwater to wash their trucks? This is my setup. Kinda crude but it works for me
It may be a little crude but as long as it works. I wish we had enough rain in my area to make that sort of system feasible. Personally, I use deionized water via filtration through a resin:

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Yeah I live in Central Tx. We were in a drought for a number of years but it does not take much to fill the barrel. I use the second barrel since it catches overflow from the first barrel so most of the trash ends up in first one. Then for good measure I have a pump that pressurizes a hose and I have the water go through a particulate filter for good measure. It's good because rinsing doesn't leave water spots.
 
Hello all:

I have wondered how people are able to apply protectant (I usually use 303) to the exterior rubber molding and trim around the windows and doors without leaving a mess on the car itself? The protectant usually ends up on the windows. Then, if I clean the windows it seems like I clear off more of the protectant than I like.......

Any advice on techniques or sequence here?

Thanks, Steve.

Hi Steve,

I'm a long time user of 303 AP so I can relate to what you're talking about. However, I wouldn't be as concerned about wiping the surfaces you apply that product to. Doing so should help lessen the amount of transfer you are experiencing. After all, 303 recommends doing this. With AP it isn't necessary to apply it like you might with some dressings although you can for aesthetic purposes in some applications if you wish.

USAGE DIRECTIONS:

Use only on clean surfaces. For best results use 303® Multi-Surface Cleaner™. Place a drop cloth under the cleaner to be treated to catch any overspray. Out of direct sun, spray surface with 303® Aerospace Protectant™ and WIPE COMPLETELY DRY. If streaking occurs, too much product has been used. Use a wet towel to remove excess, IMMEDIATELY WIPE COMPLETELY DRY. Note: this product does not air dry. Extra buffing with a dry cloth INCREASES bonding, repellency & longevity. Apply every 3-5 weeks for maximum UV protection. Great for use on a variety of surfaces such as: vinyl, leather, plastics, synthetic & natural rubber, eisenglass, PVC, gel coat & fiberglass. Ideal for: Hypalon inflatable boats, wet/dry suits, tires, side-out seals, RV EDPM rubber roofing (for your safety, never walk on a wet roof), helmets, visors, and goggles. Not for use on unfinished leathers (such as suede), fabrics (canvas) or floorings.

Having said that, for door seals I use a product from 1Z (Einszett) called Gummi Pflege. ....Wurth also had a product which I believe was the same. Anyhow, it comes in a small bottle with a sponge applicator that you use to moisten the seals. You let it dry completely before closing the doors, rolling up the windows, etc. Excellent product. BMW/dealers use to sell this stuff (perhaps still do) to help protect rubber seals on their cars. .....good product IMO/IME:

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Hey guys new to the forum must say the sponge is a bad idea but its cool . I start with the tires seperate item. Then work on body top to bottom them finally glass
 
Do new vehicles benefit from waxing? Say, if I plan to wax (or polish/wax) twice a year, do I do my first wax job right after purchase or do I wait six months to wax for the first time?
 
Do new vehicles benefit from waxing? Say, if I plan to wax (or polish/wax) twice a year, do I do my first wax job right after purchase or do I wait six months to wax for the first time?

Most dealers have kids in the detailing shop. I like to call it "dealer installed scratches". Tell them not to clean or wash the new car for delivery, that you'll do it yourself.

By the time a car makes it to the line for sale, the "airing" out period required for new paint has passed. Wax or seal it when you take delivery and get it home.

Look up Ammo NYC on Youtube. Larry has some really good and informative videos.
 
Do new vehicles benefit from waxing? Say, if I plan to wax (or polish/wax) twice a year, do I do my first wax job right after purchase or do I wait six months to wax for the first time?

I have a 21 yr old sedan black.. original owner. I use a micro fiber auto wash mitt. on the wheels I use a soft long bristle brush for auto finishes. I use liquid gld auto car wash soap [small amount] and then I put on the water filter so that the water spots will not be an issue..

after wiping the paint down with microfiber towels I then apply the zymol liquid synthetic wax. this lasts about 6 months on a BLACK vehicle.

this type procedure should be a good way to start on protecting the finish.
over time I have had to use 3M finishing polish with a low speed buffer and a black foam finishing pad. the 21 yr old paint looks like glass mirror.

sounds good right ! well I have turkeys in my area so they see themselves in the reflection and peck at my ride .. you can't win !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Do new vehicles benefit from waxing? Say, if I plan to wax (or polish/wax) twice a year, do I do my first wax job right after purchase or do I wait six months to wax for the first time?

I agree with Zeb. The wait period most folks hear about is typically related to those situations where the vehicle is painted in a body shop. Factory conditions are obviously different in that the paint is able to be cured during their process. The is no additional time needed for off-gassing when you take delivery.

The benefits of "waxing" (including any kind off last step product like a sealant, coating, etc.) can have several benefits. Most importantly (IMO/IME) it can help provide an added level of protection against contaminants including those that can potentially damage the underlying finish. Think of it as a kind of sacrificial layer. That's not to say the product will be impervious but it might make the difference in that bird bomb just being a nuisance vs. permanently etching your paint (providing the time needed to address it). If anything, a well maintained finish is much easier to clean. Contaminants will release easier, water will glide off, etc. Obviously, not all products are created equal and there are a lot of good ones out there. .....and a lot of bad. The trick is finding the products, tools and techniques that work for you.

Personally, I would suggest digging through some detailing forums like Autopia.org, Meguiars Online, Autogeek Forum, etc. to gather some ideas. I've been a member of Autopia for the last 15 years and found a wealth of information there during that time. It's where I usually visit when I'm looking for reviews on products or a new solution. .....good luck.
 

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