Conceal Handgun...What do you carry?

[CO_FlyFisher]

For me, it's a stainless Springfield XD sub-compact .40 or Gen I Kimber Compact Custom .45. Both go in their respective Milt Sparks VMII (AWESOME holster)! Kel-tec P32 otherwise (sooo easy to hide).

I'm a fan of the 40, BUT only in a full size pistol. To acheive the velocities the 40 needs to equal the 45, it needs a full length barrel. Going to a 3" barrel really cuts some velocity.

I don't know about that. I have chrono'd my XD SC (3") .40, and I get a fair amount more energy than my 4" .45's. 5" .45 might be a different story, but that's is too big to carry imho.

I am with Manhunter, any place, any time... Which means, all places, all times, and even church ;-) you never know.

These days, ESPECIALLY in church!!! That is now one of the more likely places you may need it!

For those who carry their piece everywhere, how many clips do you carry too (unless you can kill 'em all with 1 clip)?

I usually keep one extra magazine on my person. BTW, no offense intended, but please don't call 'em clips.

 

[outlaw450r]

Glock 26, Colt Defender or Ruger LCP. Depending on what I'm wearing and wher I'm going.

 

[HB 4X4]

What kind of clips? Paper clips? Chip clips? Hair clips perhaps?

 

[Thai]

I love you guys!! Yeah, my Sig is like an American Express card...never leave home without it! If it is a quick errand, then i leave my extra clip at home...otherwise (esp. when family is with me), extra clip is on me (including at church).

 

[RocNYRunner]

Thank You

What kind of clips? Paper clips? Chip clips? Hair clips perhaps?

I thought I was just being a jerk when I started laughing after reading that post. "Piece" "Clips" Glad to see I'm not alone!

 

[RocNYRunner]

Here's my baby.

With the right holster, it's surprisingly easy to conceal. And remember a 9mm may expand, but a .45 will never shrink! Springfield Lightweight Operator, the light is only on it when it's in the nightstand.

 

[echo4tango]

revolvers are the only way to go for a "close to perfect" concealed carry weapon. Semi autos are trouble waiting to happen in a real life fire fight unless you have the training needed to operate the weapon after a malfunction.
-Murphys law dictates that a semi auto will fail when most needed :gun5:

 

[5POINT56]

revolvers are the only way to go for a "close to perfect" concealed carry weapon. Semi autos are trouble waiting to happen in a real life fire fight unless you have the training needed to operate the weapon after a malfunction.
-Murphys law dictates that a semi auto will fail when most needed :gun5:

Take a look at anyone who's job requires a firearm to defend their life. A cop, a SWAT officer, a soldier, a SOF operator....take your pick. Now.....out of that group, tell me how many choose a revolver as their secondary weapon.

There's a good reason none of them do. The laws of reality dictate that semiauto's are the way to go....damn near 100% of the time.

That being said.....I live in South Florida where much of the year it's hot and humid as ****. I find that in a pinch the S&W 340PD serves very nicely as a pocket gun. Titanium cylinder, scandium frame, .357 with a CT grip installed makes for a pretty formidable back up gun. It's damn near 100% corrosion resistant, drops in to a pocket without being noticed, the weight is great and it'll drop anything on 2 feet.

I love my S&W 686 and the 340PD...but your assertions about semi's being unreliable enough for personal carry are flat out wrong.

 

[echo4tango]

Take a look at anyone who's job requires a firearm to defend their life. A cop, a SWAT officer, a soldier, a SOF operator.....

thanks, that was excatly my point. Semi autos are only as good as the person using them. I am a Police officer-SWAT team member- and a former Marine Operator so i know a little something about firearm training.

Anyone can point and shoot..they have trained monkeys that can shoot pistols. Its when the "fit hits the shan" that things start to go down hill. revolvers are going to be the average joes life saver because not all of them know remideal action drills. Revolvers CAN'T fail to feed, fail to extract, or fail to eject..but semis can and unless you are trained on how to react to those situations in a fire fight you are a sitting duck until you can get that weapon back into battery.

so for those few who ARE trained and are comfortable in a high stress situation clearing a malfuctions then semis are a better choice. However for those who are not comfortable doing fine motor skills under stress then revolvers are the way to go.

 

[manhunter]

For those who carry their piece everywhere, how many clips do you carry too (unless you can kill 'em all with 1 clip)?

Mike, first of all, they are not clips - they are magazines. I believe the difference, and if anyone wants to correct me on this, is that "clips" are top-fed whereas magazines are bottom-fed. To answer your question, when I carry off-duty, I carry my Glock 27 with one magazine locked and loaded, no spares. When I carry on duty in a warrant execution situation, I carry my GLock 22 with two spares (total of 46 rounds), as well as my AR3 with 30 rounds locked and loaded, and two spare magazines topped off.

 

[Thai]

Good points both of you...I do know how to clear a malfunction...had plenty of practice with my Kahr! . My Sig has been flawless since day one...hopefully, it will be that way when I need it.

 

[echo4tango]

congrats fellow sig owner..sig sauer is the most accurate production non-911 firearm i have ever shot so you shouldnt have any problems with it. I own 4 sigs and not one has ever malfunctioned.

My top 3 list for CC semi autos
my top 3 semis for home defense

1-springfield xdM .40(3.8)
1- Sig sauer P220
2-glock 32
2-Springfield xdM .45(4.5)
3-kimber utra carry
3- Glock 20

my top 3 CC revolvers
my top 3 home defense revolvers

1-charter arms 73840 Undercover
1-ruger sp101 .357
2-S&W model 60
2-S&W model 686
3-Taurus 817ss2ul
3- taurus 65ss4

These are just MY choices everyone will have different opinions depending on their needs and training.:thanks:

 

[pmdata]

thanks, that was excatly my point. Semi autos are only as good as the person using them. I am a Police officer-SWAT team member- and a former Marine Operator so i know a little something about firearm training.

Anyone can point and shoot..they have trained monkeys that can shoot pistols. Its when the "fit hits the shan" that things start to go down hill. revolvers are going to be the average joes life saver because not all of them know remideal action drills. Revolvers CAN'T fail to feed, fail to extract, or fail to eject..but semis can and unless you are trained on how to react to those situations in a fire fight you are a sitting duck until you can get that weapon back into battery.

so for those few who ARE trained and are comfortable in a high stress situation clearing a malfuctions then semis are a better choice. However for those who are not comfortable doing fine motor skills under stress then revolvers are the way to go.

I respectfully disagree. Mindset should always be priority one. Over anything else. By definition, if you need your weapon, the fit has hit the shan...

Those who make the choice to carry should have the warrior/survivor mindset, get the best training they can afford and pick a weapon that they are comfortable carrying anywhere. Revolver or pistol factors little in that decision.

I carried the same Sig for 8 years and 15k+ rounds with not one FTF. Fwiw. Ymmv.

Cheers.

 

[MikesToy]

I grew up with clips. So clips = magazines in my dictionary. :lmao:
But for those who carry their piece @ church, shouldn't you find another church to go to?

 

[WhiskeyCop]

Clips are for your hair.

Historically, most wars have been fought because of religious differences. If you think that the 'opposition' does not intend to target you and your loved ones when and where you least expect it you need to open your eyes and read some books.

Manhunter, pmdata, I recently had the priviledge of meeting Grossman and attend one of his classes. Very stimulating... Makes you think about some things, especially the kind of **** that happened at that Russian school.

 

[pmdata]

Clips are for your hair.

Historically, most wars have been fought because of religious differences. If you think that the 'opposition' does not intend to target you and your loved ones when and where you least expect it you need to open your eyes and read some books.

Manhunter, pmdata, I recently had the priviledge of meeting Grossman and attend one of his classes. Very stimulating... Makes you think about some things, especially the kind of **** that happened at that Russian school.

Indeed.

To a person who doesn't carry, I can see how it is a little shocking that someone carries a gun to church. I get it.

If you remove the stigma from firearms, mostly from the media and Hollywood, it's just pieces of machined metal no more dangerous than a lead pipe, a chainsaw, or a car. A tool, plain and simple at the direction of a craftsman (good or evil).

I guess my point is: Don't worry, the only reason you'll ever see my weapon at church is if something has gone really wrong. Otherwise, it's just another hunk of metal.

Grossman is an eye-opener for sure. He talks about the stuff that everyone should know.

Mindset. Mindset. Mindset. I can't preach it enough. If XYZ happens, what am I going to do.

Again, glad to hear there are more sheepdogs out there watching the sheep.

Cheers

 

[Cubslover]

congrats fellow sig owner..sig sauer is the most accurate production non-911 firearm i have ever shot so you shouldnt have any problems with it. I own 4 sigs and not one has ever malfunctioned.

My top 3 list for CC semi autos
my top 3 semis for home defense

1-springfield xdM .40(3.8)
1- Sig sauer P220
2-glock 32
2-Springfield xdM .45(4.5)
3-kimber utra carry
3- Glock 20

my top 3 CC revolvers
my top 3 home defense revolvers

1-charter arms 73840 Undercover
1-ruger sp101 .357
2-S&W model 60
2-S&W model 686
3-Taurus 817ss2ul
3- taurus 65ss4

These are just MY choices everyone will have different opinions depending on their needs and training.:thanks:

I like your list (you would already know Kahr is my CC Auto Choice), but the S&W 340PD would be my revolver of choice for CC.

Some 12oz and a .357. It would be a handful, but when you need it, it wouldn't matter.

 

[Rix]

Daily carry, usually concealed: Ruger SR9 stainless.

 

[echo4tango]

my never leave home with out it choice for carry -Smith and wesson model 60

 

[MikesToy]

I have a colt .45 underneath my pillow and not to count the five other .45s hidden around the house.