Consumer Reports April Auto issue

Re: Re: Consumer Reports April Auto issue

majewski said:
HEY, watch the cracks about the Volvo! Our other car is a 2003 Volvo S60, and is a fantastic car. Oil change every 15k miles, and its regular CHEAP maintenance, and we have spent nothing more on it than tires in 80K miles.

I traded in my 99 S80 T6 for my '05 4Runner. Although it did make it to 100,000 miles and was a very comfortable car, it was riddled with problems and recalls. Just about everything on it is software-based, requiring you to take it to a dealer, who owns the proprietary software for diagnostic and software reset procedures at $100/hour. Dealers make you spend hundreds of dollars on "possible problems" before they acknowledge a recall issue. In the last 4 months that I owned it, I spent well over $5,000 on it in repairs, and it still needed a lot more work. Before I traded it in, the check engine light had come on agian, and even though the Volvo Service Technician admitted it was likely to be the electronic throttle module which was under recall warranty, they wanted me to spend another $1,000 to change the O2 sensors before they would replace the throttle module. This was typical of every issue I had with it. And yes, it did leave me stranded several times. I maintained it very well. IMHO, they are made with very poor quality materials, and not enough R&D went into them before they were released to consumers. I will never buy a Volvo again. I'd much rather have my beautiful wife, daughter, and soon-to-be-born second daughter in our 4Runner. The extra gas it burns is well worth it.
 
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The Hyundai Santa Fe was the cheapest to own for five years with a figure of $42,000, but the 4Runner came in second at $42,750, to me a statistical tie. Call me crazy, for $750, I would go with the 4Runner, but hey that is just me.



$750 OMG 4Runner for sure...no wait the Hyundai
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I test drove the new Santa Fe before buying a '07 SR5 4WD 4Runner. The Santa Fe is a nice vehicle...very smooth, handled well (more like a crossover than a real SUV, though), quiet, good acceleration, seemed well-made and was a lot nicer looking than the previous model. Quality seemed fine, but not in the same league as the Toyota. My girlfriend has a Tucson and, while it's a reliable vehicle so far, I'm not that impressed with it overall.

In the end, I knew I really wanted a true, rugged and off-road capable 4WD vehicle, so I didn't seriously consider the Santa Fe. I'm not seeing many of the new Santa Fe's on the road...I am seeing tons of new 4Runners...so I think a lot of other buyers agreed with me.

As for CR...I recall they recommended the 4Runner as being one of the best vehicles for those intending to own one for a long time and putting a lot of miles on it. That carried a lot of weight with me. Of all the old (10+ years) 4WD SUVs I see driving around every day 4runners seem to dominate, by far.
 
I looked at the Volvo XC70 when I was shopping for a new vehicle. The Volvo version of VSC was a $950 option that few dealers ordered because they thought it made the already pricey vehicle too expensive.

And when I first got my 4Runner I was reviewing all the safety features with my insurance company to get the discounts. There was no discount for VSC. The insurance agent said that insurance companies are always behind the curve in recognizing new safety features.
 
jharris2 said:
I've driven a Santa Fe -- not a bad vehicle, but I considered it more of a compact SUV than a midsize. I definitely wouldn't compare it to the 4Runner, though -- to me, it's an apples-and-oranges comparison.

My $0.02.

Exactly.

The term "SUV" has been bas****ized and encompasses everything from a Subaru Forester to a Navigator XL.

Having just purchased a new 4Runner, the choice for SUV's as I define them were slim. It's either humongous vehicles like the Tahoe or re-badged minivans like the CX-9. My choice finally came down to the 4Runner/GX470 and the Nissan Pathfinder.

The Santa Fe is not in the league of a 4Runner. It's more in the car/minivan family. The size categories are all over the place as well.
 

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