Convince me to go to 285s

[kblaine123]

285's

I also have 285 Toyo AT's....(2018 SR5 premium) no BMC, no rub, no fender cutting, no re-gearing. Slight lift in rear with Bilstein 5100 up front.

I would add....if you go 285's, stay cognizant to wheel weight. I have some relatively lighter Fuel Wheels I'm running which work great.....I think the ideal wheel is what Chris has which is the FN FX Pro, they are light and great looking.

 

[Slowgoat]

I have 285/70/17s and its niiiice! I do get a little rubbing in full lock in reverse, but just don't do that ever!!! :becky:

 

[Dillusion]

Thanks Dillusion, one of my concerns with stock tire size is looking too small after a lift. I figure that 275 cuts the difference between the two and it will look good both with stock suspension and a built suspension. Maybe I should stop thinking short term between no-lift and lift, and just wait until the lift to get the right tire.

I still think 285 look too small personally but I'm not willing to cut more so I have to live with it.

 

[@jrfordlandia]

He’s right. 285 is the gateway drug you waste money on. 295 is where you’ll get the most beef for your buck and get kicked in the gas enough to prevent you from entering the 300’s.

At what size does regearing become an issue? I seem to recall 285s push the limits before needing different gears of power loss, mileage, and speedo are concerns. If your looking at 295s or 300s, maybe none of that matters.

 

[snowpeak]

At what size does regearing become an issue? I seem to recall 285s push the limits before needing different gears of power loss, mileage, and speedo are concerns. If your looking at 295s or 300s, maybe none of that matters.

This post goes into detail on re-gearing. Changing Tire Size or Wheels? Read this first! and states anything larger than 33" will need re-gearing. At 32", the differences will be negligible, making the 275/70/17 a better choice IMO. I've pushed the stock wheels off-road and found their limit. Perhaps I'll do the same with the 32's and then make a decision to upgrade.

 

[Akkording]

If you run 285 in P rate you'll save more weight.
Toyo open country ATs 48# pounds are not as tall as the newly released Firestone Destinations AT2 at 42# pounds with an impressive 13/32. The destinations has much better rain performance and more sipping and I believe it was designed for snow as well. OCs were louder and sat much wider.

I gained an extra 1 mpg by going from the Toyo OC to the FS destinations if that matters but the mpg gain and quicker acceleration was back.

I ran C rated 275 Wildpeaks for a few weeks but I felt the weight, it was horrible entering freeways but they did ride very soft and comfortable. I went on to swap to 285 P rated Wildpeaks for mpg recovery and they were great but I had to do a road hazard after I drove home with a bent steering knuckle from the off-road park 4 hours away from home. Then came the toyos OCs and now Fs Destinations AT2 which I'll have the opportunity to try at the offroad park soon.

As stated before lighter wheels would help greatly, some FN or SCS wheels at 22# would be ideal.

Do what you feel what is right for you and your budget, it'll all change up again sooner or later. Go make some good friends at discount tire and firestone, bring them some beer, that's how I was able to play dressing room with all my tire options and not spend much at all for their services and favors. Good luck!

 

[Justin.Geer81]

I ran the Ridge Grapplers. Worst tire I have ever had. Driving in rain was like driving on ice. They look great, good in snow, quiet on road, horrible in rain. Anyway, the stock Pro wheels are 7" wide, not even really enough for a 285 The perfect wheel spec is 17x8 with 4.5" back spacing and 0 offset. With that combo, you will have the least possible chance of rubbing. Here's mine lifted 1.5" with 295/70/17 Ridge Grapplers on MX Pro wheels. All I did is a fender liner trim, no body mount chop, no rubbing.

That looks SICK man! Do the TRD center caps fit on those wheels?


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[2016 4Runner SR5]

That looks SICK man! Do the TRD center caps fit on those wheels?


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Thank you. No they do not. I ordered matte black TRD stickers to put on the caps that these wheels come with just for a little contrast. These wheels are designed after the TRD wheel but they are an improvement over the OEM specs.

 

[snowpeak]

Alright I went with 32s. 275/70/17 Falken Wildpeak AT3W in C load. It checked all the boxes for me. C is the right balance for me between off-road and on-road durability and comfort. Great snow rating, good in rain and sand, good reviews, consumer reports recommended, and at the right price.

Before

After

 

[hwnrunner]

Looks the same! Sorry just kidding.
Good choice!

 

[snowpeak]

Looks the same! Sorry just kidding.
Good choice!

Haha yeah not a major change. So far after a couple days commuting and driving around town they are great. Better handling, much quieter than the KO2s I had on my old car, and they look great! I'm still shocked that Toyota put such horrible highway tires on a vehicle marketed for off-road use.

 

[Bumbo]

Ya, why stop at a 285?

315 E Load is is what you want… adding as much rotational weight and reducing compliance is the name of the game.

 

[4Liberty]

Falken tires are heavy. Pay attention to tire weight. Heavy tires will crush your 4Runners acceleration and mpg. My next tires are going to be LT275/70R17C Firestone Destination AT as they are 47 lbs. 32.2" diameter tires will also make my speedometer more accurate. I have KDSS and I'm too afraid of messing up the way it handles on the road as it handles like a dream in corners. My fear is a lift will screw up that way it handles and rides. A soft ride is important to me and E load rated tires would kill it.

I dare anybody to find me a lighter LT tire! Tire weight matters and it seems all everyone thinks about is how tough a tire is and badass a tire looks.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...White Letters&partnum=77R7DESTATOWL&tab=Sizes

 

[mynameistory]

Falken tires are heavy. Pay attention to tire weight. Heavy tires will crush your 4Runners acceleration and mpg. My next tires are going to be LT275/70R17C Firestone Destination AT as they are 47 lbs. 32.2" diameter tires will also make my speedometer more accurate. I have KDSS and I'm too afraid of messing up the way it handles on the road as it handles like a dream in corners. My fear is a lift will screw up that way it handles and rides. A soft ride is important to me and E load rated tires would kill it.

I dare anybody to find me a lighter LT tire! Tire weight matters and it seems all everyone thinks about is how tough a tire is and badass a tire looks.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...White Letters&partnum=77R7DESTATOWL&tab=Sizes

E-load KO2 tires in that size weigh 55 pounds. I made up the difference switching to flow-formed Six Shooter wheels by FN. They weigh 21 pounds each, or about 9 pounds lighter than stock Trail wheels. The combo only weighs a little more than stock but much tougher.

 

[utctscanr75]

I ran the Ridge Grapplers. Worst tire I have ever had. Driving in rain was like driving on ice. They look great, good in snow, quiet on road, horrible in rain. Anyway, the stock Pro wheels are 7" wide, not even really enough for a 285 The perfect wheel spec is 17x8 with 4.5" back spacing and 0 offset. With that combo, you will have the least possible chance of rubbing. Here's mine lifted 1.5" with 295/70/17 Ridge Grapplers on MX Pro wheels. All I did is a fender liner trim, no body mount chop, no rubbing.

Any regearing? Other downsides to going with 295s?

 

[patkelly4370]

I bought mine used from a Toyota dealer with 285's on Mickey Thompson wheels. It came with a 1½" leveling spacer.
The front tires did barely touch one spot of each inner fender. Moved the 2 lower mounts forward an inch or so and no more rubbing.
My drive home from work had a 12 mile, 6% climb. The truck does it at 65mph and the "eco" light is on the whole time.
I was averaging 17.7 mpg until I dropped the tire pressure from 45 to 30. I now average 17.1 mpg.
It doesn't handle as well as our Dodge Magnum. It rides nicer than our Ram 2500. This is normal.
I do offroad it, I have to to get to my house.
So with 285's I have a bit more ground clearance, ample power, not unusual fuel mileage, decent ride, and I like the way my truck looks.

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[2016 4Runner SR5]

Any regearing? Other downsides to going with 295s?

Stock gears, it's fine. Regear would be nice but not required and not worth the $ at this point. I average 13 ish MPG if that matters to you in terms of negatives.

 

[Gnfanatic]

I ran the Ridge Grapplers. Worst tire I have ever had. Driving in rain was like driving on ice. They look great, good in snow, quiet on road, horrible in rain. Anyway, the stock Pro wheels are 7" wide, not even really enough for a 285 The perfect wheel spec is 17x8 with 4.5" back spacing and 0 offset. With that combo, you will have the least possible chance of rubbing. Here's mine lifted 1.5" with 295/70/17 Ridge Grapplers on MX Pro wheels. All I did is a fender liner trim, no body mount chop, no rubbing.

Damn shame these wheels are $1300 a set with lugs. I like the back spacing look to

 

[2016 4Runner SR5]

Damn shame these wheels are $1300 a set with lugs. I like the back spacing look to

FX Pro wheels are $1300 with lugs? Where did you get that price from? I bought mine February 2017 and definitely didn't pay that much for them.

 

[Gnfanatic]

FX Pro wheels are $1300 with lugs? Where did you get that price from? I bought mine February 2017 and definitely didn't pay that much for them.

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