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T4R was not threatened with legal action and the thread was not removed for GOBI's sake. The thread was removed because it portrayed a very bad example of the forum and it's members. Plain and simple. The forum has rules, you all agreed to them upon registration. We are NOT here to revoke any of your amendment rights, we only ask that members follow the rules and to keep in mind that this isn't pirate4x4 forum where anything and everything goes.


BS.

Sorry man, calling it like I see and, and a LOT of others see it.

With the exception of the few posts others have mentioned, which could have been removed, instead of closing and locking the whole thread.

As said in previous posts, a lot of good information in there, as well as showing Gobi's true character when it comes to their employees, and business practices.

This forum isn't Pirate, and that post was NO WHERE NEAR what happens on Pirate.

I say put it back, and open it back up.

Or someone start another one, that person being the one that had the info on the lawsuit and such.
 
[MENTION=58830]JWaldz[/MENTION]

I did not write anything that portrays a bad image of T4R and its members.

With all due respect, you guys are walking on thin ice - from a logic perspective.

Coming across as respectful has never been a requirement for T4R threads and posts. Why is -------- member still here? Why is --------'S posts which are rude and insulting still up?

T4R has never policed for being not polite.

As for the individual posts in that thread which were over the line, I think the moderators should have edited or deleted their comments. If they were over the line then warn them or suspend them for ten days.

Deleting the entire thread or of existence turns off existing members to this site. Myself, I'm very anti censorship but I censor myself all the time. It's just being polite. The mods should be blocking individual posts not deleting entire threads.

Please restore the locked thread. If needed, remove individual posts that explicitly violate the rules.
 
T4R was not threatened with legal action and the thread was not removed for GOBI's sake. The thread was removed because it portrayed a very bad example of the forum and it's members. Plain and simple. The forum has rules, you all agreed to them upon registration. We are NOT here to revoke any of your amendment rights, we only ask that members follow the rules and to keep in mind that this isn't pirate4x4 forum where anything and everything goes.

On a side note.. I personally want to publicly apologize to any members (mods included) if they have found my recent actions on this forum strict, stern, harsh or concerning. These actions have only been used in the best interest of the forum and nothing other than that. I hope to never be portrayed as the bad guy. I'm only trying to make this place as friendly as possible and I know sometimes not all people will be pleased with the outcomes. This job is not easy a lot of the times.

If any members should ever have any questions about my actions or actions taken by the forum, I ask them to please contact me. I will always explain and be as helpful as possible.

-J

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I'm sorry, but your explanation is lame, and smacks of political-correctness. Was the thread in question controversial? Sure. Were there some comments leaning towards "bad examples"? Probably.

But I submit to you, and the forum populace, that there's more to it than you have stated. I justify that because I read DAILY threads that reach to your threshold, and still remain.

I should think closing it would have easily made your point.

IMO, you have overreacted, and the thread should be restored.

cc: [MENTION=5653]admin[/MENTION]
 
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Oh man, I havent watched judge judy in a while. Love that show.
 
I'm going to assume this has nothing to do with admin. More likely based on the comments in this thread, the mods decided (vote?) to get rid of the thread.
 
I'm going to assume this has nothing to do with admin. More likely based on the comments in this thread, the mods decided (vote?) to get rid of the thread.

Not sure about that...I wonder if this is a lone moderator action, not up for voting.
 
Based on the the mod comments on page 1, I think it was one mod who made the decision without consulting the others.

I'm going to assume this has nothing to do with admin. More likely based on the comments in this thread, the mods decided (vote?) to get rid of the thread.
 
this looks really, really bad for the forum administration/mods/whoever. delete the bickering between the two members if you want. the rest was good info and mostly cordial debate that needs to be out there.

on a side-note, i really want a WMW rack now (i had no interest before)
 
Here's my take on it, for what it's worth: I didn't start the thread, and didn't plan to start anything about the situation because, like most of you, I've never been in a situation anywhere near similar to this, so I don't know the ins and outs of what to do or not to do, even though its a matter of public record. Once it was brought to light, I felt it safe to chime in with more or less neutral and non-specific info. Once the excitement started, and man was it exciting, I just didn't know what to think about such behavior. Obviously, there were many very intelligent and insightful comments, but there were also plenty of less than useful comments and personal jabs. At one point I agreed with the locking of the thread, solely based on the personal jab factor and it's persistence. If that stuff could be cut out, I see no reason why it couldn't be open and back to civility. If it rubs many of you wrong to see it removed, try seeing it from my eyes. Most of my customer base is right here on this forum and for "them" to be able to come in, kick an ant bed, and then have it swept under the rug, is a tough pill to swallow. At any rate, I appreciate the valuable info many of you have posted and of course, your support.
 
..and apparently, shills.

I admit I had to look that up.

shill
A person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his services.

:thumb:
 
I've never been so disappointed in this site. I was not aware that it was the role of this forum's moderation to censor negative feedback, conceal shady business tactics, and whitewash shameful actions taken for preferred vendors.



Closing and/or cleaning the thread would have just as easily rectified forum violations. Deleting the thread does not benefit the forum or its members and is only advantageous for Gobi, whose staff's actions clearly show a disdain for the forum's rules and members.
 
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I'm currently trying to work with [MENTION=165]momo.75[/MENTION] and [MENTION=25058]ChildrenOfBodom[/MENTION] to weed through the thread's negative posts and reopen it for viewing pleasure. Please be patient. An over reaction may have been the case but please understand there is a lot that goes on behind closed doors that persuaded the initial reaction to the thread. My actions were solely based on the forums example as a family oriented site and how we were not acting as so. I have nothing wrong with the thread for what it is and what it stands for. Please allow me to "write this wrong" and the time for us to bring the thread back.
 
on a side-note, i really want a WMW rack now (i had no interest before)

I feel the same way.
I always loved the look of the Gobi rack and had plans to buy one in the future but I definitely wont be buying one now. The thread was "enlightening" to say the least. I didn't participate in the thread, but I am really glad I was able to read through it. I think threads like that are good for the community.
 
[MENTION=58830]JWaldz[/MENTION] -

When you say "weeding through the negative posts", does this mean that basically everything in that thread is going to be taken out, or just the bickering?

I feel taking out the majority of the thread will only make people more mad; however, the personal attacks on other members should be removed.

IMHO, there's nothing wrong with "supporting" a forum business member; especially one such as Josh that had been exceptional in his practices/craftsmanship, and stating distaste with another business/individual, seeing as how it's been done in numerous posts on this forum.

Just my 2¢.
 
I'm currently trying to work with [MENTION=165]momo.75[/MENTION] and [MENTION=25058]ChildrenOfBodom[/MENTION] to weed through the thread's negative posts and reopen it for viewing pleasure. Please be patient. An over reaction may have been the case but please understand there is a lot that goes on behind closed doors that persuaded the initial reaction to the thread. My actions were solely based on the forums example as a family oriented site and how we were not acting as so. I have nothing wrong with the thread for what it is and what it stands for. Please allow me to "write this wrong" and the time for us to bring the thread back.

Good on ya Waldo, and thanks.

Now, a suggestion if I may please: in the interest of preventing further criticism, I suggest rather than removing offending posts, you replace the text therein with, oh, "deleted".

The whole (extremely informative) thread stays intact, and offending posters get a little slap on the wrist.

cc: [MENTION=25058]ChildrenOfBodom[/MENTION]
 
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For the record I was completely against the thread being deleted. I agreed that it should probably be locked but not deleted.

If the thread is brought back it will be with all the bickering removed. All the facts will still be there.
 
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