mgrande
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Yeah, I think that bumper looks great but there seems to be some fitment issues. The hood doesnt match up, the cut seems uneven and I dont know whats up with that wiring harness. HOWEVER, those things should be able to be fixed.
Demello Off-Road Bumper
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Yeah, I think that bumper looks great but there seems to be some fitment issues. The hood doesnt match up, the cut seems uneven and I dont know whats up with that wiring harness. HOWEVER, those things should be able to be fixed.
mikey's2010SR5
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The hood matches up from what I see. At least mine looks exactly the same. Just need a steady hand to even out the cuts on the bumper cover.
I bet the harness is for the factory fogs that are no longer present.
mgrande
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I dont know man, stole this pic from another thread. The gap looks a lot smaller.
Dlak
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Bumper
Yeah I agree there was a bit of a gab between the grill and the hood from the start. As for the bottom of the plastic meeting the bumper, the slots they had to cut for the lights to fit in kinda through off the line of the bumper. Not a big deal to me since it is not as noticable as starring at a picture taken at bumper level. And it isnt something a body shop cant straighten out. Once I get the truck lifted I will probably fab up some splash guards to fit on the lower right and left of the bumper to cover up whats exposed.
Yeah I agree there was a bit of a gab between the grill and the hood from the start. As for the bottom of the plastic meeting the bumper, the slots they had to cut for the lights to fit in kinda through off the line of the bumper. Not a big deal to me since it is not as noticable as starring at a picture taken at bumper level. And it isnt something a body shop cant straighten out. Once I get the truck lifted I will probably fab up some splash guards to fit on the lower right and left of the bumper to cover up whats exposed.
ciaz
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I totally agree. Also, forget the cutting... Someone needs to make a bumper that goes over both of the sections below the hood.
Hey guys, David just turned me on to this site. Let me see if I can address a few questions, concerns and comments.
This is our first attempt at the 2010 4runner front end. Let me first say this new runner is really nice. David was nice enough to let us barrow it for a little while to make sliders and a bumper for it.
Some have expressed wanting a bumper that goes up to the lights. Let me tell you why we didn't do it this way. There are a number of reasons. The biggest is IMO weight. There is really no benefit from running metal up to the bottom of the lights and wrap it around the side. It doesn't offer any benefits and only offers more weight added to the front of the truck. I know some are concerned with cutting the plastic. Which I understand that some will not want to cut bumpers up on a 30-40k truck. It's really not hard to do it's plastic and cuts pretty easy. The other issue with running a bumper up to the lights is body on frame movement. We learned from the FJC that the bodies like to move independently a lot in relation to the frame. Meaning you would get a lot of contact between the bumper and the lights or other body parts unless you have a good .5in or bigger gap to allow for this.
The lines of the cut, looking over the pictures it does look like the cut on the bumper could have been done a little cleaner, I will have David come back in so we can fix that. I didn't notice it till I saw the pictures.
I think the gap in the hood is a black plastic piece that we failed to re-install, anther issue we will take up with David when he has time to return.
If we did build this into a production bumper we would change a couple things, we would move the winch hole and shackles to the front of the bumper kinda filling that gap that the width of this truck makes.
Overall were happy with the way it turned out, I know there are a few concerned about modifying the stock bumper and that seems to be the biggest complaint. But it's going to be more and more common as car manufactures keep adding more and more plastic to trucks. The rear of the FJ bumper is very similar in that you need to cut up your stock rear bumper completely to make it fit.
Keep the comments coming, were using this feedback to help make better products every day.
This is our first attempt at the 2010 4runner front end. Let me first say this new runner is really nice. David was nice enough to let us barrow it for a little while to make sliders and a bumper for it.
Some have expressed wanting a bumper that goes up to the lights. Let me tell you why we didn't do it this way. There are a number of reasons. The biggest is IMO weight. There is really no benefit from running metal up to the bottom of the lights and wrap it around the side. It doesn't offer any benefits and only offers more weight added to the front of the truck. I know some are concerned with cutting the plastic. Which I understand that some will not want to cut bumpers up on a 30-40k truck. It's really not hard to do it's plastic and cuts pretty easy. The other issue with running a bumper up to the lights is body on frame movement. We learned from the FJC that the bodies like to move independently a lot in relation to the frame. Meaning you would get a lot of contact between the bumper and the lights or other body parts unless you have a good .5in or bigger gap to allow for this.
The lines of the cut, looking over the pictures it does look like the cut on the bumper could have been done a little cleaner, I will have David come back in so we can fix that. I didn't notice it till I saw the pictures.
I think the gap in the hood is a black plastic piece that we failed to re-install, anther issue we will take up with David when he has time to return.
If we did build this into a production bumper we would change a couple things, we would move the winch hole and shackles to the front of the bumper kinda filling that gap that the width of this truck makes.
Overall were happy with the way it turned out, I know there are a few concerned about modifying the stock bumper and that seems to be the biggest complaint. But it's going to be more and more common as car manufactures keep adding more and more plastic to trucks. The rear of the FJ bumper is very similar in that you need to cut up your stock rear bumper completely to make it fit.
Keep the comments coming, were using this feedback to help make better products every day.
In another thread, the bumper plastic was listed as costing $150. now yo do have to add paint to that cost, but it is not unafordable to simply get a "spare" bumper cover to cut. Cutting the plastic is pretty easy with either a large band saw, or a hand held jigsaw, but getting a straight cut line that you can cut along will be the challenge. a stick-on template might help with that. My bigger concern lies with the exposed reservoir and other parts; both from an estheatic and protective standpoint. Not sure if that can be solved with a skid-plate or something.
Okki
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mgrande
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With any offroad bumper alot is going to be exposed, thats why you make sure you get some pretty coilovers
: David, just to be clear I wasn't saying anything negative about the bumper, it looks great. You guys did an amazing job as expected. I was just pointing out some fitment issues. I am interested in knowing what that wire harness by the tire is though. I think after some time a lot of people will be more at ease with cutting the bumper to make this fit, especially after they tear the stock ones up on trails. So as far as feed back goes the only thing I personally would see different would be having the lights hang on the hoop upside down.
Oh, and when is the rear bumper coming?:hungry:
Actually a cut off wheel works best. And no it's not an exact science. I thought we did a pretty straight job still I saw the pictures. If your going to use the truck for off road your going to have more issues than just cutting your bumper. David brought this truck to us and the front bumper already had been hit so I don't think he was worried about cutting it.
For the reservoir bottle that is a big issue with both these and the previous models. I know on the older models you can move it into the engine bay by using a early model FJC washer bottle. But on the new ones I'm not sure.
Making a protection plate for it would be fine for light duty hits but something to take a decent hit it would have to be pretty beefy to hold up to a 5k truck landing on it. And we could do a splash plate for those that want them, if we made this into a production bumper that would be an option.
sandcrawler
Senior Member
thanks for the clarifications. and let me just say that—even at this early hour—the Demello bumper is looking to be the best design. hope the constructive criticism helps to further widen your lead.
With any offroad bumper alot is going to be exposed, thats why you make sure you get some pretty coilovers
?:hungry:
That is correct, it's kinda a trade off, if you want to go off road your going to have your under bits exposed a little more.
And as this 4runner gets a little older I think people will be ok with cutting their stock bumper.
mgrande
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Also the more you look at them the more you need one! When his truck is done you'll what a new set of coilovers, uper and lower control arms will do. Pure sex appeal.
daPitbull
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I like it Jason. For those worried about the washer bottle, Expedition 1 makes an aftermarket solution for the FJC, I'm sure with a little work it can be used too.
Expedition One Windshield Washer Bottle Installed - Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum
Expedition One Windshield Washer Bottle Installed - Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum
SeattleMike
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Sadly, that's the same spot where the second battery goes.
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Please keep us in the loop. I told Casey I was a definite, but would also take one even if you don't mass produce. I can get my guys to coat it here in CO. I also understand that with one offs they cost more to produce
Let me know!
Please keep us in the loop. I told Casey I was a definite, but would also take one even if you don't mass produce. I can get my guys to coat it here in CO. I also understand that with one offs they cost more to produce
Let me know!
Dlak
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Actually I was at the offroad expo last week and ran into a gentleman by the name of jawan (Juan) from kodiak technologies. He already has a dual battery management system on a TE. He fit two odyssey 1200s side by side in place of the stock battery. I was planning on going with that setup anyway which will leave room for the washer fluid bottle and maybe an arb pump. Jason the truck looks awesome got a bunch of fj rubberneckers on the 57 fwy today. Can't wait to get the new shoes and shocks on it
Underoath
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Can't imagine how much plastic would have to be cut to fit a new rear bumper to a 5th gen 4 runner. I had an FJ with an ARB front and did not want to deal with a rear bumper.
