Do I dare ask what this was? More rust!

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Hi all, Do I dare ask what joint this is? hard to tell with the all the rust. Maybe its are to ID because rust ate it alive! This is the rear, so im thinking sway bar?? Or whats left of the mount?

I hope this body isn't toast....

Ill grab more pictures in the morning.

thanks
 

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Hi all, Do I dare ask what joint this is? hard to tell with the all the rust. Maybe its are to ID because rust ate it alive! This is the rear, so im thinking sway bar?? Or whats left of the mount?

I hope this body isn't toast....

Ill grab more pictures in the morning.

thanks

I think I saw a sunken pirates cannon once....with less rust.

BTW OP, how's that bumpy ride? I see your springs are shot and you are riding on the bumpstops. Look liked mine did with 350,000 miles on them at the time. New coils and shocks back there will make for nice ride again!
 
If it's still solid then you're fine. If it's not, a rear axle isn't expensive. Are you seriously scrapping a vehicle over that?
 
I think I saw a sunken pirates cannon once....with less rust.

BTW OP, how's that bumpy ride? I see your springs are shot and you are riding on the bumpstops. Look liked mine did with 350,000 miles on them at the time. New coils and shocks back there will make for nice ride again!

Ours is only at 110:( we had to stop using the car lately because it has to many problems ... And yes lots of noise. Turns out shock mount also sheered off. Springs are dead ???? Sigh. Thanks for telling me . I guess I'll have to add it to the list

If it's still solid then you're fine. If it's not, a rear axle isn't expensive. Are you seriously scrapping a vehicle over that?


Well there are rust issues not to mention springs and strusts and shocks need to be replaced.

I need to do some more digging
 
That's genuinely terrifying. I wouldn't drive around with that mount that way at all, if it fails you're in for a wild ride. You could probably weld a new on on there as opposed to replacing the axle though.
 
That's genuinely terrifying. I wouldn't drive around with that mount that way at all, if it fails you're in for a wild ride. You could probably weld a new on on there as opposed to replacing the axle though.

Yeah! Im kind of scared to poke it now....

Im scared to look under the car :eek:
 
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If it's still solid then you're fine. If it's not, a rear axle isn't expensive. Are you seriously scrapping a vehicle over that?

A rear axle has to be at least 1k to swap...the car isn't even worth 4k. How much would a rear axle be?

I think I saw a sunken pirates cannon once....with less rust.

BTW OP, how's that bumpy ride? I see your springs are shot and you are riding on the bumpstops. Look liked mine did with 350,000 miles on them at the time. New coils and shocks back there will make for nice ride again!


the bumpstop isn't suppose to be all the way down there? Is it possible where it is mounted to is rotted out?
 
the bumpstop isn't suppose to be all the way down there? Is it possible where it is mounted to is rotted out?

No. There should be 2-3 inches of open space at least. It's unlikely to have rotted or fallen down since it rides/hangs from the the top of the coil. When the coil gets worn out, it starts to compress and the weight of the truck crushes the spring until the bumpstop hits the axle.

Mine were the same way. Here's mine at around 360k I think before I changed them.



For about $100 you can throw in some Moog coils and KYB shocks. It's a simple and inexpensive way to improve the ride and looks (gets rid of the saggy ass look). Obviously, if you plan to off road a lot or haul heavy loads, you would be better suited with some beefier coils and shocks. There are litteraly hundreds or thousands of threads here on the forum discussing different options.

Rear Springs: Moog #81041
Rear Shocks: KYB #kg54317
 
the bumpstop isn't suppose to be all the way down there? Is it possible where it is mounted to is rotted out?

The bumpstop is what looks to be a good 4" away from contacting the axle tube. What I think you're referring to, inside the metal coil spring, is what Toyota calls a hollow spring.

Basically, it's an overload spring. The intention is for when the vehicle is loaded heavily, that rubber "hollow spring" helps support the load.

It does look like your metal coil springs have sagged, and the hollow spring is close to making contact. That would result in a harsher ride.
 
No. There should be 2-3 inches of open space at least. It's unlikely to have rotted or fallen down since it rides/hangs from the the top of the coil. When the coil gets worn out, it starts to compress and the weight of the truck crushes the spring until the bumpstop hits the axle.

Mine were the same way. Here's mine at around 360k I think before I changed them.



For about $100 you can throw in some Moog coils and KYB shocks. It's a simple and inexpensive way to improve the ride and looks (gets rid of the saggy ass look). Obviously, if you plan to off road a lot or haul heavy loads, you would be better suited with some beefier coils and shocks. There are litteraly hundreds or thousands of threads here on the forum discussing different options.

Rear Springs: Moog #81041
Rear Shocks: KYB #kg54317

oh my god, is that what a normal 4runner supposed to look like?! How do you have such little rust... LOL never going to say that .

Thanks for the pics,I have just begun to investigate. I'll probably will go with moog springs, I already bought OEM shocks. should have gone with KYB, to save the 50-60 bucks. but before I put them in I am going to go full rust investigation. hopefully none of the rust is through just boarderline...

Thanks!
 
A rear axle has to be at least 1k to swap...the car isn't even worth 4k. How much would a rear axle be?




the bumpstop isn't suppose to be all the way down there? Is it possible where it is mounted to is rotted out?

When I put an elocker axle in my 4runner, I sold my stock rear axle for $225. You could probably find one for even cheaper if you have an automatic transmission (The gearing is more common. I have the manual so my rear axle gearing is rare-ish)
At the same time, you could probably get them to throw in the shocks and springs for next to nothing. They might be saggy as well, but it will be easy to tell just by looking at the ride height of the donor truck. If you shop around, I bet you could find a rear axle, coils and shocks for $200. Its a very straightforward swap too, besides dealing with rusty bolts. I bought my new axle, wire wheeled the whole thing, repainted it, removed my old axle, and installed the new axle all in one day by myself.


 
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When I put an elocker axle in my 4runner, I sold my stock rear axle for $225. You could probably find one for even cheaper if you have an automatic transmission (The gearing is more common. I have the manual so my rear axle gearing is rare-ish)
At the same time, you could probably get them to throw in the shocks and springs for next to nothing. They might be saggy as well, but it will be easy to tell just by looking at the ride height of the donor truck. If you shop around, I bet you could find a rear axle, coils and shocks for $200. Its a very straightforward swap too, besides dealing with rusty bolts. I bought my new axle, wire wheeled the whole thing, repainted it, removed my old axle, and installed the new axle all in one day by myself.




where did you go shopping for a rear axle??? I didn't think it could be that straight forward.

I poked the area with a screw driver, it didn't fall apart so I assume there is still meat left .

So far it seems like it hasn't rusted through, except the cast they put on the frame is starting to fail all around the car. I guess taking it all out, and aplying POR 15 or something like that should give a a lot of life left.

Just seems like a huge pain in the butt
 

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