Dobinsons Suspension - 4th Gen Options

[Crikeymike]

Is there a spring that will give 1 in or a little over an inch of lift in the rear? But with a good ride quality? I like the way my 4runner rides but it does lean a bit more then I would like on the turns. It might be the old suspension though. I do have a daystar budget booster in the front that nets a 2 inch lift. I like the way the front end sits but I don't like how the rear appears lower. I would like a little but of rake.

Yes, we have a new coil coming, C59-505, which will be in between the C59-599 and C59-325. Lift height should be at 1.25". Those are arriving at the end of May here.

These coils are only 220LB rate, so they will ride very well.

How much rake do you have now? Have you measured it recently? Maybe a 2" coil in the back would give you 1" of rake?

 

[Iluvboost]

There is no take at all. I think its evened out but the way our fenders and running boards are it looks off. My buddy says I have a cali lean . 1.25 should be where I wanna be. I think 2 inches would be too much. I will wait till may if they will ride good. I was gonna go with the toytec superflexes but then would have to raise the front to 3inches.

 

[jrm]

Actually it's called

My buddy says I have a cali lean .

a "gangsta lean"

https://youtu.be/nQfWzKTOE74

 

[alia176]

Yes, we have a new coil coming, C59-505, which will be in between the C59-599 and C59-325. Lift height should be at 1.25". Those are arriving at the end of May here.

These coils are only 220LB rate, so they will ride very well.

How much rake do you have now? Have you measured it recently? Maybe a 2" coil in the back would give you 1" of rake?

This is a great compromise for the folks who don't want a full 2" lift in the rear. I'm in the same boat, don't really need a 2" of lift in the rear, more like 1.5" of lift. But, my Icons are 2" lift and I can live with it unless an alternative option is now available to us.

I believe factory springs are 180 lb/in so 220 lb/in ought to be decent if you don't have a rear bumper, but some stuff in the cargo area full time. My Icon rear springs are 207 lb/in I believe.

 

[Crikeymike]

Look what came in the mail today!

Installed yet??? People want to hear and see your results and measurements


And you too, [MENTION=57276]Doozi[/MENTION] ??

 

[Doozi]

And you too, [MENTION=57276]Doozi[/MENTION] ??

I haven't had an opportunity to get garage time, but I'm hoping it will be soon... the 4Runner's "to-do" list is pretty lengthy!

 

[Crikeymike]

Just added the rear shock lengths. I didn't have them listed for some reason, and I also added the intermediate length of the GS59-701 shocks.

Rear Shock Options
GS59-637 - Twin Tube, suits 0-2" lift. 581mm extended, 349mm compressed.
GS59-701 - Twin Tube, longer travel, suits 2-3" lift. 605mm extended, 362mm compressed.
GS59-575 - Twin Tube, Long Travel, suits 3" lift (3" bump stop spacers recommended so shocks don't bottom out). 730mm extended, 425mm compressed. That's 28.7"/16.7".

 

[Mr.Eeks]

Installed yet??? People want to hear and see your results and measurements


And you too, [MENTION=57276]Doozi[/MENTION] ??

Got them installed last week. Here is the one pic I've taken so far. As you can see, Shrockworks front bumper. It's 24" from center of hub to bottom of fender front and back. The ride quality is awesome, though I was coming from a very tired 100k+ miles, stock suspension. Here is what Mike hooked me up with for those that are interested. Highly recommend Mike and Dobinson's, he was super helpful I basically just told him how I use my T4R and what other mods I have done and he will help configure what is just right for you.
C59-314
C59-325
GS59-221
GS59-637

 

[Crikeymike]

Got them installed last week. Here is the one pic I've taken so far. As you can see, Shrockworks front bumper. It's 24" from center of hub to bottom of fender front and back. The ride quality is awesome, though I was coming from a very tired 100k+ miles, stock suspension. Here is what Mike hooked me up with for those that are interested. Highly recommend Mike and Dobinson's, he was super helpful I basically just told him how I use my T4R and what other mods I have done and he will help configure what is just right for you.
C59-314
C59-325
GS59-221
GS59-637

Very cool!! The truck looks awesome. I just got back from Overland Expo West, and I used you as an example to several people out there. So many 4th Gen's at the event were sagging big time, so I was filling everyone in about all our coil options for these trucks to get them fixed back up and riding like they're supposed to.

 

[Crikeymike]

Plenty of coils back in stock now, including the new C59-505 lower height coils.

 

[shallcallhimtim]

The 677V is the most amazing coil ever! Mike I love mine! ill be emailing you tomorrow about matching something in the front! Need them stiff enough so I can take the sway bar off!

 

[Crikeymike]

The 677V is the most amazing coil ever! Mike I love mine! ill be emailing you tomorrow about matching something in the front! Need them stiff enough so I can take the sway bar off!

I'm glad to hear it. Be sure to post up Center of wheel to Fender measurements so that everybody else can see what you got

 

[jmarsh8923]

I have been looking for suspension options. I have a 2004 V8 4runner It is a daily driver first and foremost, so the on-road comfort needs to be the foremost concern. I don't want to feel any pot holes or small cracks in the road. I also like taking it off-roading on trips but its mainly to beaches with sand. Are these mainly geared towards major off-roading 4runners?

 

[Crikeymike]

I have been looking for suspension options. I have a 2004 V8 4runner It is a daily driver first and foremost, so the on-road comfort needs to be the foremost concern. I don't want to feel any pot holes or small cracks in the road. I also like taking it off-roading on trips but its mainly to beaches with sand. Are these mainly geared towards major off-roading 4runners?

Our suspension is to give a combination of the best on and offroad performance we can give. It's a difficult balance to make all that happen without having adjustability built into the shocks.

Not feeling any pot holes or cracks is very tough. I feel I have very good riding suspension in my vehicle, but you'll always know when you go over anything that is sunken or raised in the road.

A few of the other guys in this thread are running our suspension. They should chime in with their reviews.

The best way to get the best ride honestly is to not lift too much. The more you lift, the more the control arms ride at a taller angle, which makes them work harder essentially to control the suspension. A low height lift with a good amount of up and down travel is the best sweet spot in my opinion for the best all-around performance.

 

[Crikeymike]

I had forgotten to add in the new 1" rear coil we just came out with.

C59-505 - Stock rear end load, 1.0" to 1.25" lift. 405/405mm, 17mm wire, 220LB


Just added it to post #1 as well. This is the ideal coil to do a 2" lift on the front and 1" on the rear.

 

[jmarsh8923]

Our suspension is to give a combination of the best on and offroad performance we can give. It's a difficult balance to make all that happen without having adjustability built into the shocks.

Not feeling any pot holes or cracks is very tough. I feel I have very good riding suspension in my vehicle, but you'll always know when you go over anything that is sunken or raised in the road.

A few of the other guys in this thread are running our suspension. They should chime in with their reviews.

The best way to get the best ride honestly is to not lift too much. The more you lift, the more the control arms ride at a taller angle, which makes them work harder essentially to control the suspension. A low height lift with a good amount of up and down travel is the best sweet spot in my opinion for the best all-around performance.

I understand you can't get the bumps completely gone. It might just be my 4runner suspension going or not the greatest tires. But it feels so harsh on the road much worse than the 98' 4runner with 230k miles I had for a long time. My thoughts were to only lift the truck 1.5" - 2".

 

[SeanWN86]

I had forgotten to add in the new 1" rear coil we just came out with.

C59-505 - Stock rear end load, 1.0" to 1.25" lift. 405/405mm, 17mm wire, 220LB


Just added it to post #1 as well. This is the ideal coil to do a 2" lift on the front and 1" on the rear.

This in a variable rate would be awesome!

 

[Iluvboost]

This in a variable rate would be awesome!

I wonder if it is variable rate.

 

[Crikeymike]

I wonder if it is variable rate.

No, It's linear. All of our variable rate coil part numbers end in V.

I think a 2.0" lift variable rate coil would be a better seller. If you guys want to get 20 people on board for a 1" or 1.5" variable rate coil, we can make it happen. Would just need to do a design and some testing first, then move forward with it.

 

[danthemanx07]

So no before and after pics because it ended up looking about the same! Measurements came out within 1/4" coming from 2" lift icons to 3" lift Dobinsons. They were surely taller free length, but with same empty load the height wasn't there so it must be a shorter section of higher spring rate in the dual rate coil. I will say that the new Dobinsons do ride MUCH better, less sag on acceleration, less body roll, stiffer feel over bumps (which was desired) and should sag less with load. Now I just need to decide if I want to lower the front to match or go up to the 677 and sell the 675. Anyone interested in a slightly discounted almost new pair of C59-675V - Variable rate comfort option, stock rear weight, 3" lift. 470/470mm, 16mm wire, 157-230LB variable?

Were you able to swap in some 677Vs? Any feedback on a comparison? Looking at the 677Vs, but I don't carry around anywhere near the kind of weight that the spring is supposedly designed for. Am just looking for something softer than the MT LT springs.