Drive shaft noise or U joint noise (LEXUS 4/06 TSB page 18) aka Driveshaft thump/bump

I really don't know what would happen, but is better to be safe now than sorry later! I hate to take my cars to the dealer, it doesan't matter which dealer or car, they are all the same. anyhow, If it is as easy as they say it is, I rather buy the grease gun and do it myself. How hard could it be going under the car and finding the little nipples and push some grease in. I understand that you must be careful not to put too much. But how do you know if it's too much. Please advice, thanks.
 

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msanta: Any manual grease gun will do. I have a 3 oz. for the lithium grease and a 14 oz. gun for the moly lithium grease.

It's important to put the specific type of grease required for the part where it belongs because each type is different as far as lubricating qualities.

I accomplished this task last week on mine as well as last weekend on a friend's 03 4Runner and it was very easy to do. I highly recommend putting the truck up on stands so you can slide underneath easier.

I also highly recommend getting a hose attachment for the grease guns so you don't have any trouble getting to the nipples. Otherwise, you'll end up having to move the truck everytime to get a better angle at the nipple.

You know you've put enough grease in when it starts coming out of the crevices.

There are four different places to pay attention to for greasing the driveshaft. There are two nipples for the moly grease and four nipples for the regular lithium grease.

Let me know if you still have questions. This is easy stuff I'm sure you all can do.
Ciao,
Jon
 
Fantastic!

The only thing that I have a question about is which ones get the Moly grease and which ones get the lithium grease. This is the first time for working on a 4Runner so if you can tell me where to locate them that will be of great help! I am very excited to be able to work on the truck, but the weather here in NY is not cooperating. (15?F) and snow on the forecast, it sucks...
 

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Ones nipples get which grease? Please take a look up above on the page I scanned from my repair manual. It breaks it down:
The there are two nipples, one on each "arm" that get the moly. These two nipples lubricate the actual driveshaft portion and as you fill it, you will see it expand the driveshaft and finally start coming out of the sides. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Jon
 
What kind of grease did you use to grease the slip joints and where are these grease points located? Thanks
 
Do you mean the slip yoke? If so, it gets the moly. If you're talking about the double cardan joint, I never found it. But it should get moly as well.

Any brand of grease will do as long as you stipulate that you need a lithium grease and a moly lithium grease.

I'll post some pics of the areas to grease tomorrow.
Jon
 
This is a fantastic article on the clunking noise produced by the driveshaft. It seems that because is a new driveshaft, it needs to wear down a little, according to the technicians the clunk eventually will disappear. As long as it doesn't damage any part, then the best thing to do is basically to drive the 4runner. Thanks for a cool link!
 
I don't know about that. Before my 4R, I had a '93 Ford Explorer which used to thunk/tap, mostly in warm weather. Never knew what caused it, but the symptoms were identical to what my 4R was doing before I had the drive shafts greased. The Exploder had 82,000 miles on it when I sold it, and the thunk/tap was still there and going strong. I think the Toyota people who are saying it will go away are just trying to make us go away!
 
the clunk is back

Thai, thanks for the link re: the replacement driveshaft. After only 2 mos and less that 1000 miles my clunk has resurfaced. This time when I go back to the dealer I'll direct the service manager to the link you provided. I'm hopeful this will finally do it, as the last servicing provided only a temporary fix, as Thai mentioned. I'll keep ya'll posted...
 
Yet, another GX470 owner who has his "clunk" fixed:

#1861 of 1863 Good News!! by rappcova Jan 27, 2004 (6:32 pm) Ref. message 1802, p. 91.

When I wrote the referenced message a couple of weeks ago, I had made my appt. for service without much hope that my complaints would be resolved. My service rep. still denied hearing of the problems I outlined. He did promise to have the service dept. check for TSB's, etc.

I was astounded when I took the GX in a week ago today. The service rep. said they had found reference to both of my problems and had therefore ordered the "fix" for the outside temperature gauge and a new drive shaft to resolve the problem with the drive train "clunk".

When I demonstrated the problem by operating the height control, the service rep. said that when the rear end changes position, it changes its position in relation to the drive shaft. He thought that was consistent with the "clunk" felt and heard during braking.

The temp. gauge fix involved replacing the whole unit that sits atop the dash with the readout. Seems the unit houses the software control--and that's what others on this message board had reported was the problem. The next day when I started out on an errand, the gauge read "35" (from the previous day). It took no more than 4-5 minutes of driving for it to drop down to the correct reading of "19". It's working like a champ!!!!!...at least as well as the fine one I had in my LS-430.

For now, there is no hint of a "clunk" either upon braking or in the height control. I'll reserve judgment since a couple of you on this board have reported having to have more than one drive shaft re-installed. At least, this is proof positive that Lexus knows about the problem, and all of you that have it need to pursue the fix relentlessly!!!

They rotated and balanced my tires, so I'm anxious to check out the vibration. But the weather and roads have been so bad here in Virginia that I haven't really had a good chance to test it. As I said previously, I'm not going to worry about it since it seems to be a problem with tires, and I'm not about to buy a new set at this point. If anybody is successful in getting Lexus to replace them gratis, let me know.

Anyway, folks, my faith has been restored, though it has taken a long time for Lexus to admit/come through with the fixes. I also know that some of you have not gotten the relief I did. I encourage you to pursue it with gusto. In case anybody wants to check with my Lexus dealer's service department, it's Lindsay Lexus of Alexandria, Virginia.

Good luck to y'all!
 
My local Toyota dealer refuses to acknowledge that this clunking is anything but "normal".

Has anyone with a 4Runner successfully gotten this problem fixed?
 
2001 4Runner-
I grease my slip yokes and universal joints as well with no luck. Come to a stop...hold foot on brake pedal....release brake pedal...THUMP!
Anyone have this symptom actually disappear?
 
I took mine a few months ago and they greased the joints, but the noise came back like three weeks later.
 
Transmission Thud

It's funny how I was thinking 3 hours ago that I was in for a huge transmission repair until I checked out this forum.

If you either hear a thud in the front, unsually under the gear shifter, or near the back, it is almost 95% likely that it needs a lube job. For me, it mainly happens when I release the breaks from a dead stop. In some instances, I hear a thud when slowing down. If the thud happens before I stop, then when I take off from the light, there is NO thud....either way, the thud screws you! You could glide or stop abruptly and it never seems to go away. Anyways .............there are about 6 or seven locations that can be lubed so I would ask and watch the "lube tech" to hit each of those points. If you scroll down to the other postings, one of the other members has a link with pictures that does a good job explaning the locations for each node.

You must mention at the dealership that you want to grease all the joints and make sure they do it by YOU either watching for a grease gun in the tech's hand, or in my case, I just went up to him and asked to do it. He couldn't find a few of the locations until I pointed it out. You must cross your fingers and hope the dealership has techs that are experienced in doing this simple task.
It's really simple once you've seen it...next time a few bucks will take care of a huge annoying problem........:D
 
I'm well aware of the problem returning, but it seems to get worse over time and if it is taking care of every oil change it can be lived with.

Is this problem very common with the 4-runners?
I also noticed this on my friends 99' Limited but his wasn't as bad....
 
So far my experience has been that even though I lubed all the universals and the slip yoke, I still have the "bump" or "shudder". Are you saying yours has been completely eliminated or that it has been reduced?
 
It's been two day's and I think I may have hit about 60 lights in the city. I haven't felt it once. It's pretty smooth now, and all I feel is the transmission downshifting normally.

I agree with you that this problem is a temporary fix, but in my case, the problem seems to go away and slowly come back over a few thousand miles.

How bad is your problem? Do you feel the jerk when you release the brake from a standstill, or when you are slowing down, or sometimes both?

What year is yours and how many miles are on it?
 

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