End of the line for T4R?

I am starting to get concerned about the future of the Sequoia though. The new Tundra came with no mention about the Sequoia at all! It's just as old as the last Tundra. What's happening?!
It seems like I read somewhere, I think it was on TundraSolutions forum, that sometime in the future the Sequoia will use the Landcruiser platform without all of the luxury appointments and start at a lower price point.
 
It seems like I read somewhere, I think it was on TundraSolutions forum, that sometime in the future the Sequoia will use the Landcruiser platform without all of the luxury appointments and start at a lower price point.

That would be incredible. The current gen LC is exactly the size of SUV I really want, something between the current Sequoia and the 4Runner with a big engine minus the 85K price tag.
 
Don't think they would ever move the sequoia to LC frame. They would want to keep sequoia built in Texas and I'm sure the bones of the LC would not be made here. Also would assume it would only have 4.6l v8. Same reason 4R gets v6 and gx gets v8. I've also heard sequoia would be discontinued. Last note tundra 2nd gen was 07 with sequoia coming in 08. So if new sequoia happened it would probably come in '15. My 2 cents.
 
Don't think they would ever move the sequoia to LC frame. They would want to keep sequoia built in Texas and I'm sure the bones of the LC would not be made here. Also would assume it would only have 4.6l v8. Same reason 4R gets v6 and gx gets v8. I've also heard sequoia would be discontinued. Last note tundra 2nd gen was 07 with sequoia coming in 08. So if new sequoia happened it would probably come in '15. My 2 cents.
You could be right, but the LC is an internationally sold platform much like the 4Runner, which the Sequoia is not. And the LC is already being sold here and around the world in many different forms, so it makes sense to just offer a de-contented, lower priced full size V8 SUV, badged as a Land Cruiser Sequoia. But, this is Toyota, so you never know where the Sequoia will end up.
 
C'mon! You KNOW Toyota corp discussed all future North American BOF designs with this salesman....

David

Having worked for for Toyota Motor Sales for over 20 years, I know for a FACT that TMS consults dealership employees on customer feedback. And YES they do hold meetings in dealerships to discuss future products & designs with dealership personnel.
SO THERE!

Maybe this will ease your minds.....Don't get your panties in a twist

2015 Toyota 4Runner Redesign, Release Date, Concept - 2015 Toyota
 
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You could be right, but the LC is an internationally sold platform much like the 4Runner, which the Sequoia is not. And the LC is already being sold here and around the world in many different forms, so it makes sense to just offer a de-contented, lower priced full size V8 SUV, badged as a Land Cruiser Sequoia. But, this is Toyota, so you never know where the Sequoia will end up.

Considering the current LC200 inherited a fully boxed version of the Tundra frame (ahem!) it's not much of a stretch at all.

Having worked for for Toyota Motor Sales for over 20 years, I know for a FACT that TMS consults dealership employees on customer feedback. And YES they do hold meetings in dealerships to discuss future products & designs with dealership personnel.
SO THERE!

Having to listen to the stupid from sales people at dealerships, as an engineer, has to be one of the worst jobs in the world.
 
GOOD CAR BAD CAR: Toyota 4Runner Sales Figures
There sales numbers aren't as high as they used to be but they are still really good for body on frame SUV

That site is great. I just checked the Camry sales total there and over the years they sell 450,000-500,00 a year. I imagine Corolla is the same. Toyota is a high volume manufacturer and I do not know how much longer they will continue making a model that only sells 47,000 a year. Maybe as long a we are willing to pay top dollar for them and they do not spend money on 6-8 speed transmissions etc. they will continue to produce them till they are no longer profitable.

I checked the Pathfinder sales on that site. Everyone here including me complained about how bad they are no longer being body on frame. Guess what sales doubled or tripled after going to unibody. You know Toyota is looking at this and will follow the big sale numbers.
Year Nissan Pathfinder
U.S. Sales Nissan Pathfinder
Canadian Sales
2002 57,384 n/a
2003 35,511 n/a
2004 38,119 3873
2005 76,156 4385
2006 73,124 3027
2007 63,056 1944
2008 33,555 1196
2009 18,341 815
2010 21,438 1400
2011 25,935 1880
2012 42,621 2666
2013 88,632 7936
 
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Having worked for for Toyota Motor Sales for over 20 years, I know for a FACT that TMS consults dealership employees on customer feedback. And YES they do hold meetings in dealerships to discuss future products & designs with dealership personnel.
SO THERE!

Maybe this will ease your minds.....Don't get your panties in a twist

2015 Toyota 4Runner Redesign, Release Date, Concept - 2015 Toyota

Info about future plans of vehicles are always general in nature. The car biz is very secretive.
 
Whatever the next design is going to be it is probably already a done deal. It takes 3-4 years from engineering a new design to getting it to production. We just will not hear about it for 3-4 years. Jeep has even stated in some magazines that the next Wrangler will probably not be solid axles front and rear any more. They are just to heavy and fuel economy has to improve to keep the corporate fuel economy in check.
 
Having worked for for Toyota Motor Sales for over 20 years, I know for a FACT that TMS consults dealership employees on customer feedback. And YES they do hold meetings in dealerships to discuss future products & designs with dealership personnel.
SO THERE!

Maybe this will ease your minds.....Don't get your panties in a twist

2015 Toyota 4Runner Redesign, Release Date, Concept - 2015 Toyota

I can assure you my panties are quite smooth and unruffled. I have no doubt that Toyota routinely contacts dealerships for customer feedback and that they do hold meetings to discuss future products and designs. That has nothing to do with the subject at hand and there is no way Toyota is prematurely discussing the termination of the 4runner line in the same year they just tooled up a mid year redesign.

Most sales people at dealerships know almost nothing about the products they sell. Their is a tendency to mix up details on two similar vehicles they sell - like the FJ, which has been terminated this year. They also have a tendency to fabricate evidence to support their claims from innuendo and rumor, occasionally sprinkled w/ idiotic poorly written pieces from the internet that are so painful to read that only a moron would believe they were credible.

Oh!

Never mind...

David
 
Well I am personal friends with Akio and he told me the 4Runner is living on with a 15 speed transmission and 500 HP diesel!! There! j/k

Please do not you believe everything you read on the internet. For example, Ford was rumored to ditch the BOF f-150 in favor of an open C.

Here is a link of Ford fans discussing the rumors much like we are doing here. Well, the 2015 F-150 is here and sporting a fully boxed frame.

2015 dropping fully boxed frame - Page 3 - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans
 

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