Falls I got a question for you, or anyone.

[Solice]

I like the look of the Cooper tires. My Uncle used them religously on his Tundra before he went with the Geolanders. The most mileage he ever got out of them was about 30K though. For the price of them compared to some others that's not all that bad.

Jacal, I agree with you about the chains. Honestly though I wouldn't want to use them on my 4Runner due to the amount of damage they could do should they break spinning at a high RPM (spinning up hill through deep snow for example). If I had a company truck then yes, absolutely I would use them. Thanks for the thought anyway.

I'm currently doing a job for Hoosier Energy in Indiana right now. They can get me an awesome deal on any Bridgestone/Firestone or Cooper tires, since they use them on their company trucks. I should be able to get the Destination M/T's in a 265x70 17 for about $150 a tire. I saw on tirerack that they're currently going for $185 a tire. I'm sure I could get the Coopers really cheap but I haven't looked to see what they can get them for yet.

 

[alaskaman]

interesting thread. you might guess that I am in the market for an 07 4Runner 4WD Sport....do you have pics of the kind of snow and ice I can expect to get through with the 4R without chains or cables?

 

[Solice]

interesting thread. you might guess that I am in the market for an 07 4Runner 4WD Sport....do you have pics of the kind of snow and ice I can expect to get through with the 4R without chains or cables?

I've never used chains or cables on my 4Runner. With the right tires you can pretty much go where you want, respectively. Any vehicle can pack snow under the frame and lift the wheels from getting any traction as seen in my thread here:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26993

It all depends on what tires you're running, driver ability, type of snow, terrain underneath, etc. I've plowed through 2 feet of light powder like it wasn't even there. I've also gotten stuck in about 1 foot of heavier wet snow with ice underneath it. So it's pretty much trial and error until you learn what you and your rig can and can't conquer :.

 

[Falls]

Catman , Why do I never see you around town ?? I'm tuned in to every 4R that I see. Where are you hiding ?? east side ??

 

[CATman]

Being in school and with the price of gas, I ride to school with my wife as she goes to work. I get to school about an hour or more early, but I look at that as time to get things done. The truck is parked most of the week now, till I find a P/T job. Far south side.

 

[alaskaman]

I'm sorry I did not hear a question......

 

[CATman]

Since I'm not putting miles on it, is it going up in value? LOL Alrighty back to the topic, I work with a few folks that had the Destination M/T's and had those wear out rather quickly. All of these aggresive tires are going to wear a little quicker than the A/T's or highway oriented tires. The Destinations are not as siped as the Coopers which is a part of why the Coopers feel good in ice/snow conditions. If ya got the Destinations siped you would also slightly reduce the mileage you'll get out of them. But anyways, these Coopers are pretty good for the $190.00 per tire I paid. Not cheap but I think they helped keep me out of the ditch for the 12+ hours I drove in that snow storm. In 2WD for a lot of it, they gripped that well.

 

[alaskaman]

Well it's early here in CA but for my money I like Michelins. The x-ice is a good tire for the money (around $140). but I am learning a lot by this thread. I think the coopers are awesome and for that kind of tread and traction I would not mind giving up some mileage. In deep snow with ice you have to be able to grip or crack...getting stuck is a whole world.

 

[Kmvreter]

... but for my money I like Michelins. The x-ice is a good tire...

I'm not going to argue with this. Smart man. Someone sees the light...