Front Recovery Point Interest Thread

Are you interested in a group buy for bolt on front recovery points?

  • Yes

    Votes: 146 78.5%

  • No

    Votes: 40 21.5%
  • Total voters
    186
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Great work on this. I appreciate the expertise that you're pouring in to this. You can count me in for a set at $150... or less. Keep us posted.
 
Jetboy said:
What happens when you pull to the side?

$80 is about the going rate for these from other manufacturers, but shipping would add another $60ish from Australia.

RECOVERY TOW POINTS TOYOTA PRADO 150 09-ON 4WD WINCH ROPE RECOVERY SNATCH 3250KG | eBay
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A pull at the WLL to 90* will have deformation...at the same time, if you're in a position where you need a 90* pull at 10k+ lbs of force, bending your recovery points is the least of your worries.

These are designed to be used in conjunction with a bridle to share the load across both points/frame rails, off center pulls when using a bridle shouldn't have any effect on your recovery points.
 
Kfog375 said:
A pull at the WLL to 90* will have deformation...at the same time, if you're in a position where you need a 90* pull at 10k+ lbs of force, bending your recovery points is the least of your worries.

These are designed to be used in conjunction with a bridle to share the load across both points/frame rails, off center pulls when using a bridle shouldn't have any effect on your recovery points.
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I understand that this is the standard design from Australia, but I think it's demonstrably weaker than the OEM part. Side pulls are pretty common. And I've never seen a bridle in the field - ever. There's a reason no OEM recover point is in a vertical plane. I'm not sure it's a good idea. I have a winch so I have no skin in the game. I don't use them either way.

Good luck.
 
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Jetboy said:
I understand that this is the standard design from Australia, but I think it's demonstrably weaker than the OEM part. Side pulls are pretty common. And I've never seen a bridle in the field - ever. There's a reason no OEM recover point is in a vertical plane. I'm not sure it's a good idea. I have a winch so I have no skin in the game. I don't use them either way.

Good luck.
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Bridles are something I think you're going to start seeing a lot more of, they're popping up in recovery trainers bags across the country. In reality they are a VERY good idea to have no matter your setup (OE, full bumper, aftermarket recovery points, etc). They greatly reduce the stresses on your rig by sharing the load across both frame rails instead of on only one.
 
Great post, and I noticed Kfog375 mentions "recovery trainers". So I googled "Offroad vehicle recovery training" but didn't see any facilities or courses on the subject in the midwest. I'm thinking of starting a thread on the subject since the site search didn't offer much of a result either.

Before I even consider what to get as far as a recovery kit I would like to know how to perform the tasks in a hands on event. Any thoughts?
 
Angonemoto said:
Great post, and I noticed Kfog375 mentions "recovery trainers". So I googled "Offroad vehicle recovery training" but didn't see any facilities or courses on the subject in the midwest. I'm thinking of starting a thread on the subject since the site search didn't offer much of a result either.

Before I even consider what to get as far as a recovery kit I would like to know how to perform the tasks in a hands on event. Any thoughts?
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This is an AWESOME idea. The International 4wd Trainers Association is a good resource for this. The president, Chris Cole, is based in Ohio which isn't terribly far from the midwest (or is it midwest? where does that start?). A lot of these guys travel for classes across the country and are an INCREDIBLE resource with a vast amount of working knowledge.

I have Joey Pitts with Pitts4x4co here in Texas, he just gave a great intro course at Texas Avid Outdoors Fall Expo about a week ago. I know in the past 60 days he's been in North Carolina with Overland Experts, Texas, and is heading to Colorado in a few weeks for some training there as well. I'm not sure what your local club looks like, but I know he'd travel if you could drum up enough folks to get a full weekend in.



Update on the points while i'm here. Hardware is finalized, the current design is good to go on KDSS trucks, just need to run the sway bar through full articulation to verify there is no interference. I know this has been dragging on, it's been pretty busy over at TOO (which is a good and bad thing). Thanks everyone for your patience! We're almost there!
 
Excellent, thanks for the lead on The International 4wd Trainers Association and Chris. I'll contact my local group and his.
 
Definitely interested if they'll be compatible with the Limited, though the front lip hangs down so far it might foul on the recovery lines. Still, better than stuck with no good recovery points.
 
Angonemoto said:
Excellent, thanks for the lead on The International 4wd Trainers Association and Chris. I'll contact my local group and his.
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no doubt! I just launched a "trade up" program as well via instagram (@treatyoakoffroad) to try and clean up the questionable quality chinese shackles out on the trails, and will follow up with a strap program as well. It might be worth checking out.

thatmaceguy said:
Definitely interested if they'll be compatible with the Limited, though the front lip hangs down so far it might foul on the recovery lines. Still, better than stuck with no good recovery points.
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They'll technically work with a limited, but that lower lip is really low. The likelihood that it gets damaged is pretty high.
 
I assume these are compatible with a 2017 TRD Off Road? Will they work with a Revtek light bar? I plan to get one. Are they available now?
 
Count me IN!

These look great, looking forward to seeing these put into production!

Kfog375 said:
sorry for the slow going, some other projects jumped ahead of this one and life got in the way a little bit. I've finally test fit the points on a 5th gen trail, and they bolted up exactly as they should. I'll be doing load testing this week!
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ayeyothisiskyle said:
No, I just don't trust the welded on factory shipping tie downs. But I was high centered on a boulder this weekend and had to use the tie down to get tugged out.
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Is there something other than a label in a manual that causes your concern. What if the manual called them "recovery points"? (and incidentally they were also stronger than the bolt on ones in some orientations of pull?)
 
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Jetboy said:
Is there something other than a label in a manual that causes your concern. What if the manual called them "recovery points"? (and incidentally they were also stronger than the bolt on ones in some orientations of pull?)
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Does the manual call them "Recovery points?" I read they call them "Emergency Towing Eyelet(s)"
 
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